Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:41:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Hovey <shovey@buffnet.net> To: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: aol postmaster Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10209251840230.4870-100000@buffnet11.buffnet.net> In-Reply-To: <OF0B42B733.2D45BDC0-ON86256C3F.007BA2FF@kka.com>
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Yeah but try ordb... I say this cause I got blacklisted once or twice, where I THOUGHT my tests neg'd but I did in fact have an issue.. Also - if you have web servers, look for formmail.pl or .cgi - they sometimes can make it look open becuase they themselves are, but relay out another machine. On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > > Nah I tested myself even using the % weirdness and my box still spits back > Relaying Not Allowed. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > Keno Kozie Associates > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > Chicago, IL 60606 > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > Stephen Hovey > <shovey@buffn To: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > et.net> cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: aol postmaster > 09/25/2002 > 05:30 PM > > > > > > > Did you try puttin that IP thru ordb? > > Its possible the conditions arent reported correctly by aol, but might be > via ordb.. > > I had a couple of upgraded machine suddenly vulnerable to the % bull.. > took me ages but found a worka round. > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > > > > > Now some poor sap will be searching through usenet, stumble across our > > topic, and just see 15 posts of commiseration with no magic number for > AOL > > heh. > > > > As far as I can tell, AOL's script sucks. My server is not open to relay > > so the only thing I can hope to do is contact them directly (since they > > ignore all emails I've sent over the last 3 months), continue to change > the > > things ip address every once in a while, or ultimately sue them (and > > continue to change ip's for the 2 years it takes to come to settlement > > heheh). > > > > Thanks for all the responses. > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > > Keno Kozie Associates > > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > > Chicago, IL 60606 > > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dave > > > [Hawk-Systems]" To: "Denny Reiter" > <denny@reiters.org>, > > <dave@hawk-systems. "Ralph Forsythe" > <rf-list@centerone.com> > > com> cc: > <Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com>, > > Sent by: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG> > > > owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: RE: aol > postmaster > > reeBSD.ORG > > > > > > > > > 09/25/2002 03:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The idea of AOL testing servers to cut down on SPAM is rather amusing > to > > >> me. I always thought that unless an AOL account was used for mass > > >> emailings, they took a hands-off approach to the issue. SPAM > detection > > is > > >> better left to things like spamassassin anyway. > > > > > >Yes, AOL does indeed test SMTP servers for open relays and then > > >blacklists them if they aren't fixed. We've been notified about a > > >couple that customers on our network had set up. > > > > Nice to be so big that you are immune to criticism... You can block > > spammers, > > and yet are the source for a large amount of the spam yourself. Not like > > we can > > all just block AOL and call it even. :( > > > > On that note though, doesn't take much to batton down your SMTP servers > so > > they > > are not an open relay, then if they block you, sue for anti-competitive > > practices or something. > > > > Dave > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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