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Date:      Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:34:08 -0800
From:      Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Adrian Filipi-Martin <adrian@virginia.edu>, Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, c@lemis.com
Subject:   Re: Fairings 
Message-ID:  <199801280934.BAA01574@rah.star-gate.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:13:01 %2B1030." <19980128151301.26241@lemis.com> 

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Gosh, 

Those where the good ol' days where Jordan's thin skin got shall we
say thicken to the point of flame proof.

Pity that we can't say the same about Jesus -- oh well he got replaced
by Hordes of Linux Fans 8)

	Cheers,
	Amancio

> On Tue, Jan 27, 1998 at 11:34:57PM -0500, Adrian T. Filipi-Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Julian Elischer wrote:
> >
> >> for those old-timers in FreeBSD...
> >>
> >> The originator of the original FreeBSD fairings
> >> was spotted in SF-bay area yesterday..
> >> (yes, the real JMj!)
> >
> > 	Heh, it is hard to forget jmonroy.  I just got interested in the
> > QIC quarterly when he up and quit crossposting it. :-/
> >
> > 	Does anyone have a copy of the Fairings post any longer?  It
> > doesn't come up when searching minnie.  I feel foolish not saving a copy.
> 
> From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr)
> Subject: More on the Conflict of Interest
> Message-ID: <jmonroyCHn46z.E0s@netcom.com>
> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 01:01:47 GMT
> Lines: 62
> 
>  
>  
>                     More on the Conflict of Interest
>                     --------------------------------
>  
>             Recently, in light of the ensueing processes which  are
>         deteremined to their rightness,  I have been working on the
>         projects that make my financial and professional interest.
>         In short, I don't have time for petty in-fighting.
>  
>             I did not (and have not had) time to read the thread
>         which mentioned the "non-merger" of the *bsd interests. So,
>         comments by me at this time are without reflection on
>         all the present facts.  Also, e-mail to me about the "moderator
>         please resign, BS" is sitting in my in-box, and will not be answer
>         until after "The Great Debate".
> 
>             I am aware that at times some of my comments seemed a bit of
>         line, but without all the facts it is just that (a seemingly
>         out-of-line-comment).  I really don't have time to play the games
>         that people like T. Deradt want to play.  Comment about
>         "net-bag-lady", "mentally-unstable", "politically-uncorrect"
>         and "non-net-equitte" are plain bull, a waste of my time and
>         show a great deal of unprofessionalisim by those involved.
>         In addition, language of vulgar context is not appreciated in
>         my "mbox".  In short, expect a harsher treatment by me to you
>         (that take on these tactics).
> 
>             I will still be continuing with this newsgroup, but I must
>         for the sake of the moronic-unstable-childish-pathetic-
>         pre-adolescent-wannabes with dillusion of being the next Bill
>         Gates take on new tactics:
> 
>             1) Don't expect fairings.
>             2) If confused read #1.
>             3) If you can't find a rule to apply read rule #1.
>             4) If you work for BSDI, USL, Novell or UUNET read
>                 rule #1.
>             5) If you want me to play by *your* rules read rule #1.
>             6) If you want to reason with me, then send reasonable
>                 mail else read rule #1.
>             7) If you've got a problem with my attitude or the
>                 way I say things read rule #1.
>             8) If you are going to mail me a nasty "this posting
>                 is just your way of proving your a XXX" read rule #1.
>             9) If you expect that I will do less on the account of
>                 a handful of wannabes, read rule #1.
> 
>             10) In case of any confusion, all the above tactics only
>                 apply to the moronic-unstable-childish-pathetic-
>                 pre-adolescent-wannabes with dillusion of being the
>                 next Bill Gates.
> 
>             11) This is a paranoid fantasy; have fun with it;
>                 read rule #1.
> 
> 
> --
> Jesus Monroy Jr                                          jmonroy@netcom.com
> Zebra Research
> /386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation
> 
> From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.bugs,comp.os.386bsd.apps,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc
> Subject: Re: More on the Conflict of Interest
> Date: 08 Dec 1993 10:09:36 GMT
> In-reply-to: jmonroy@netcom.com's message of Tue, 7 Dec 1993 01:01:47 GMT
> 
> In article <jmonroyCHn46z.E0s@netcom.com> jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes:
> 	       1) Don't expect fairings.
> 	       2) If confused read #1.
> 
> I was confused.  I read #1.  I finally got it - you're a fellow
> motorcycle rider, winter is approaching, and you're exhorting us all
> not to expect fairings!  Sound advice too, should you happen to borrow
> or rent someone else's motorcycle and be suddenly faced with a long,
> cold ride without the benefit of any kind of wind protection.
> 
> 		[ Lots more rules deleted, all referring back to the rule
> 		  about not expecting wind-chill protection ]
> 
> Sound advice here.  Remember, a good pair of gloves (leather, not
> wool!  Wool may look warm but does nothing to keep the wind out!), a
> thick muffler and a thick padded jacket will save you from looking
> like Frozen-zombie-from-beyond-the-grave-man when you dismount your
> trusty steed 50 miles later and find that you're barely unable to
> detach your frozen fingers from the throttle.
> 
> Weather may turn cold, and long distance winter motorcycle commutes
> may continue unabated, but of those of us who take sound advice of
> Jesus to heart, many are cold but few are frozen.
> 
> 				Jordan
> --
> (Jordan K. Hubbard)  jkh@violet.berkeley.edu, jkh@al.org, jkh@whisker.lotus.ie
> 





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