Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:44:30 +0000 From: Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> Cc: Nicola Vitale <nivit@freebsd.org>, cvs-ports@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov <cvs-src@yandex.ru>, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/py-pychess Makefile Message-ID: <CADLo838uTwwfLJ-5y6uOWUitSLUPcd8OMgUdJk9mBjcPoV0AGg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20111213010655.GA3611@FreeBSD.org> References: <201112111707.pBBH7GHd079459@repoman.freebsd.org> <20111212005714.GA98735@FreeBSD.org> <CAEQKd7UPVHX9DjA2fgz8Qp4qxHT4%2BOXo4e=DEa_FcvJjd_1JXA@mail.gmail.com> <4EE60DD8.1070402@yandex.ru> <20111213010655.GA3611@FreeBSD.org>
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2011/12/13 Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:21:12PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: >> Nicola Vitale wrote on 12.12.2011 17:51: >> >> [2011/12/12 Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>] >> >> [...] perhaps you could consider moving this to a better >> >> named "games/pychess". =A0Note that py- prefix should not be used for >> >> normal applications. >> > >> > AFAIK, py- prefix should be used for all port that install files under >> > PYTHON_SITELIBDIR, i.e., that use PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX in their >> > package name. > > I've always wondered how this discussion spawns again and again. =A0:-) > > To put it shortly, what's more important is that such ports install files > under "bin/" -- which is the first thing our users care about, not whethe= r > it uses any resources or libraries for its operation (those that go under > PYTHON_SITELIBDIR). > > Actually, we have two issues here (quoting my earlier email to cs@): > > 1) what should be name of the port directory? =A0My answer is "pychess". = =A0As a > user, I don't really care which language was used to write software. =A0I= want > a chess client, and google tells me there is one named "pychess". =A0So I > will naturally try to look for it spelled like that. > > 2) what should be PKGNAME? =A0Less obvious, but then I'll ask myself, why= do I > need to embed the Python version in the package name? =A0Given sufficient > reasons I might agree, but so far as I see it, it is a self-contained por= t > with bunch of its local Python stuff under PYTHON_SITELIBDIR, and taintin= g > both port directory and package name does not bring any noticeable good. > >> > audio/py-sonata or www/google-appengine -> www/py-google-appengine, >> > even if they were Python applications. >> > Otherwise, we should rename hundreds of ports, not only that one. > > Ideally, yes, however, the cost of such rename is a bit too high. =A0Inst= ead > we should refine our documentation in this area and try to be more carefu= l > in the future. > >> Hmm, i though that PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX is added only if the port in >> question - it's a library. For that reason i omitted py-prefix for >> deskutils/gtg, multimedia/gtk-recordmydesktop, www/zope213 etc. All of >> them install their files into %%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%. > > Yes, exactly. =A0Prefixes are for libraries, extensions, bindings, plugin= s, > etc. -- "batteries", not for "normal" applications and utilities. Cool. Perhaps this could be discussed on ports@ and then documented? Chris
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