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Date:      Sun, 9 May 2010 07:54:59 -0400
From:      Ansar Mohammed <ansarm@gmail.com>
To:        Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>
Cc:        Bobby Walker <bobbyjwalker@live.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: File system
Message-ID:  <r2j768631271005090454z31cb6a3dm694922674bbb27b@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <201005091046.08871.bruce@cran.org.uk>
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Thank you Bruce and Matthew,
for your very informed and insightful comments.
 I read online that this may be fixed in FreeBSD 9 with jeff's UFS
Journaling patch. Have you guys tried this yet?
http://jeffr-tech.livejournal.com/

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sunday 09 May 2010 04:18:12 Ansar Mohammed wrote:
>
> > The background to this problem is because the FreeBSD root filesystem
> (UFS)
> > is not journaled and for some reason I cannot set my root partition to be
> > UFS+SoftUpdates.
> >
> > At any rate, we are in the year 2010, most modern operating systems and
> > databases and able to survive an unclean shutdown without booting into
> > single user mode and file system/data corruption.
>
> Even with SoftUpdates and journaling you'll find UFS doesn't cope well with
> unclean shutdowns: to test it, a couple of weeks ago I started a "rm -rf
> /usr/obj/*" and pressed the reset button - upon startup I got dumped into
> single-user mode with a softupdates inconsistency. I've not tried the same
> test but I think ZFS is much better at recovering from this sort of problem
> since it was designed from the start to be very resilient.
>
> --
> Bruce Cran
>



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