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Date:      Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:04:40 +0100
From:      Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
To:        advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: BSD software 
Message-ID:  <19991216200440.B17351@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
In-Reply-To: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFF9ADA61@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu>; from personrp@ccbh.com on Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 01:08:00PM -0500
References:  <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFF9ADA61@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu>

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Hi!
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 01:08:00PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote:

> That is exactly why I gave up on Linux. The last time I did that I wanted a
> 68k news reader and had to download 175M of stuff to upgrade my entire
> system. Gladly I have never done this on FBSD. Examples, such as this, need
> to be put in the face of Linux users and advocates. This is the prefect type
> of promotion to attest to the power of BSD.

Well, this example must be rather extreme, on the other hand... but yes,
these benefits need to be emphasized. Also the fact that many BSD flavors
have the ability to receive source upgrades via cvsup and then remake the
world (well, I am not sure for NetBSD and do not think it is possible with 
BSDI) 

But the place where we
need to put these facts is the mainstream media and places like the Bazaar,
instead of in the face of Linux advocates. 

Otherwise you will be in for some religious battle in which nobody is right
and yet everybody has valid points. It is not them who need convincing IMHO.
Especially because I have not heard many rants against any BSD from the
Linux people, which was not always true from our side. (In fact when I
talked to Linux fans at a computer fair last spring here, they were kind of
respectful towards me as soon as they learned that I used BSD. They
considered it to be some sort of "more serious thing" compared to Linux...
it was interesting and heartwarming to hear this.:-)

And till the time an average manager or someone interested outsider gets the 
idea there is still a long way to go... when you talk to them about their
computing experience they usually consider DOS and different versions of Win as
alternatives to each other...and some of them have heard of MacOS. The IT
press also does things wrong by only offering tips for Win and also lots of
shareware and the Linux sections are kinda "for serious hackers only" so
that average people get scared away. And when it comes to discussing
alternatives, they rant about rare things like BeOS or some really
outlandish (for most people)
things like the Amiga or ZX-Spectrum so that the whole thing has no more
than pure entertainment value. The mind boggles. At least this is the
situation here in Hungary now.

Regards:

Szilveszter ADAM
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