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Date:      Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:01:30 +0100
From:      "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" <svein-listmail@stillbilde.net>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir
Message-ID:  <4B90E48A.6030100@stillbilde.net>
In-Reply-To: <4B90E171.2040808@lissyara.su>
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On 05.03.2010 11:48, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 05.03.2010 12:59, Doug Rabson wrote:
>> On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> On 05.03.2010 12:45, Doug Rabson wrote:
>>>     
>>>> On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:30, Alex Keda wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>> On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>> consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>> thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon,
>>>>> NetApp, Juniper, and many others'?
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>> It might be helpful to think of them as 'customers' who are using
>>>> our 'product' and paying for it by feeding back patches and
>>>> employing FreeBSD developers. Normal business practice doesn't
>>>> include intentionally making your customers' lives difficult - if
>>>> you make a habit of it they tend to go elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>> It seems to me, business and freedom - are mutually exclusive things.
>>> or you can choose the path of development, or who pays - giver
>>> commands to community.
>>> no freedom there.
>>>      
>> Someone always pays. If this project didn't have sponsors like Isilon,
>> NetApp, Juniper, Yahoo, and many others it simply would not exist.
>>    
> 
> then can a more correct name of the project or ClosedBSD or ManagedBSD? =)
> or something abstract?
> ==========
> I love FreeBSD, but then having to follow the guidance of someone even
> though everyone understands what you can do better - depressing.

Oh, so because a lot of the programmers behind it receive wages, and the
project itself won't commit ritual suicide by basically blocking the
companies using FreeBSD from returning improvements they make to the
project itself, it should be renamed.

Can I suggest you be careful around bright light sources?

//Svein

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