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Date:      Thu, 2 Sep 1999 01:32:59 +0200
From:      Markus Stumpf <maex-freebsd-hackers@Space.Net>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
Message-ID:  <19990902013259.B4058@space.net>
In-Reply-To: <199909012256.PAA01514@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 03:56:10PM -0700
References:  <19990902003928.A33233@keltia.freenix.fr> <199909012256.PAA01514@dingo.cdrom.com>

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On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 03:56:10PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like 
> "mailman" might be a start.  Or "mailperson", or "postperson", or 
> whatever.  "mta" just feels a little obscure.

May I vote for NO more predefined uids/gids at all?

I think there are already too many of them. If you get out of a FreeBSD
only world to a *nix one, you'll run more and more into problems.
Linux predefines some uids, Sun does, HP does, FreeBSD does, everyone does.
But everyone uses different uids/gids for the same role accounts.
    uucp is 66:66 on FreeBSD
    uucp is  4:8  on SunOS
    uucp is 10:10 on Debian Linux
    uucp is  5:3  on HP/UX

Even the group "users" doesn't any longer have the same gid on all
platforms (if it exists at all). If you have a very heterogeneous
network with lot of different OSs it makes it nearly impossible to
use kinda default/out of the box configuration and standard tools and
e.g. make use of NFS.

If I have to go ahead and create all my role accounts myself anyway
to get it consistent/secure, why would I need predefined ones?

If you, however, can establish a GUANA and convince all vendors too
agree on same uids/gids for role accounts, I'd vote YES ;-)

	\Maex

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