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Date:      Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:42:30 -0300
From:      Marcelo Araujo <araujobsdport@gmail.com>
To:        Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>
Cc:        Olafur Osvaldsson <osvaldsson@icelandic.net>, ports@freebsd.org, "Philip M. Gollucci" <pgollucci@p6m7g8.com>, pgollucci@freebsd.org, Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@freebsd.org>, Florent Thoumie <flz@xbsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ports/125625: [PATCH] dns/nsd: USE_RC_SUBR != yes
Message-ID:  <20080724164230.GD1170@ponderosa.intelbras.com.br>
In-Reply-To: <op.uerfmj0w9aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com>
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 02:40:57PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:13:58 -0500, Philip M. Gollucci=20
> <pgollucci@p6m7g8.com> wrote:
>=20
>> Florent Thoumie wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@freebsd.org>=
=20
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:08:03 +0100
>>>> "Florent Thoumie" <flz@xbsd.org> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Olafur Osvaldsson
>>>>> <osvaldsson@icelandic.net> wrote:
>>>>>> This is something the PR responsible introduced in his original
>>>>>> patch...
>>>>> It's still present in your version. Anyway, I'm not blaming anyone,
>>>>> just pointing out what I think is a mistake.
>>>> So this is not for the user but for the port?
>>>>=20
>>>> I'll do a swap on the tree for it, because I'm sure there are more
>>>> ports doing something like:
>>>> .ifndef(NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES)
>>>> ......
>>>> .endif
>> I was talking to itectu@ about this, and figured it would be better in=
=20
>> Mk/bsd.port.mk.
>>=20
>>=20
>>> The general rule of thumb is: if it doesn't begin with WITH_ or
>>> WITHOUT_, it's not user-settable. NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES is used for
>>> ports using imake that don't understand the install.man target.
>> /me thought that was the USE_ vs WITH(OUT)?_ difference.
>>=20
>> NO* is supposed to be user settable right ?
>=20
> While I am here, have you gotten my email about scons?
>=20
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-July/153324.html
>=20
> ----------------------------------------------
> # pkg_info -IX scons
> scons-0.98.5        A build tool alternative to make
> # ls /usr/local/man/man1/ | grep scons
> scons-time.1.gz
> scons.1.gz
> sconsign.1.gz
> # pkg_delete -f scons-0.98.5
> # ls /usr/local/man/man1/ | grep scons
> [...empty...]
> # cd /usr/ports/devel/scons
> # grep NO Makefile
> .if !defined (NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES)
> # make NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES=3Dyes install
> [...]
> Installed SCons scripts into /usr/local/bin
> Installed SCons man pages into /usr/local/man/man1
> =3D=3D=3D>   Registering installation for scons-0.98.5
> # ls /usr/local/man/man1/ | grep scons
> scons-time.1
> scons.1
> sconsign.1
> # pkg_delete -f scons-0.98.5
> # ls /usr/local/man/man1/ | grep scons
> scons-time.1
> scons.1
> sconsign.1
> ----------------------------------------------
>=20
> The scons plist is broke with NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES.
>=20
> Cheers,
> Mezz
>=20
>>>  Now of course there are exceptions (usually for no good reason IMHO).
>>> The likes of NOPORTDOCS/NOPORTEXAMPLES/... could be changed to
>>> WITHOUT_DOCS/WITHOUT_EXAMPLES, it's just waiting for somebody to do
>>> the work.
>> Heh, maybe, I kind of feel like it will get reject as a style(9) change.
>>=20
>> I'm all for it though, not saying I'm going to do it though.
>=20
>=20

Hi Jeremy,

I'll check it tonight.
Thanks.

--=20
Marcelo Araujo
araujo@FreeBSD.org
http://www.FreeBSD.org
Keep emotionally active,
cater to your favorite neurosis.

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