Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 12:09:02 -0700 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> To: Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r268461 - in head: . gnu/lib/libreadline gnu/lib/libreadline/history gnu/lib/libreadline/readline gnu/lib/libreadline/readline/doc gnu/usr.bin/gdb gnu/usr.bin/gdb/gdb gnu/usr.bin/gdb/gd... Message-ID: <CAJ-VmokW-Y6M6E7UW_7sO3upC-1AKfwtQ1t_7GDvaGgitngOrw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20140709182745.GD93733@kib.kiev.ua> References: <201407091552.s69FqUon070685@svn.freebsd.org> <53BD68E4.1070706@freebsd.org> <CAJ-VmonsZzATyWC9g-pxaQ_qDSvOh-jbiWhY=92vgmovqvn-BQ@mail.gmail.com> <20140709172305.GD56040@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <CAJ-Vmo=kLQ27km1hRcwFsinmBMA=UVWcZyw5gBLJ-V1UvQPuOw@mail.gmail.com> <20140709182745.GD93733@kib.kiev.ua>
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On 9 July 2014 11:27, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 11:05:29AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> On 9 July 2014 10:23, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote: >> > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 10:12:27AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> By doing this you're actually making more work for the really embedded >> >> people who have size constraints on things. >> >> >> >> I dislike privatelib but it at least allows for code sharing where >> >> before people would just statically link things into binaries. >> > >> > do you install gdb on your embedded environnement? because that is the only >> > user of libreadline. >> >> See below. >> >> >> >> >> I've had to actively undo this kind of dumb before in order to get >> >> things to fit on very small flash root filesystems. >> >> >> >> Shared libraries are good. Please stop assuming we have lots of disk >> >> space and RAM to have duplicates of things floating around. >> > >> > Facts: >> > Before >> > gdb + kgdb + gdbtui + libreadline.so.8 + libhistory.so.8 = 8976 k >> > After >> > gdb + kgdb + gdbtui = 8973 k >> > >> > I don't think I have damaged too much your embedded system am I wrong? >> > >> > Do I miss something? >> > >> > (Yes I have checked that before turning into an internallib given my first >> > approach was to turn into a privatelib. >> >> Sure, except for the people who have done things like rolled local >> configuration/management telnet interfaces for these things. They're >> also using libreadline (and things like the cisco UI library.) >> >> And yeah, I do install gdb in there from time to time. Code sometimes >> needs debugging. :-) >> > > What Baptiste did is the only correct way to handle the ABI and API > un-stability issues with the third-party libraries. The change is > good if only for this sole reason. Private libraries still conflict > with the same library installed by other means, in the single process > image. > > That said, if you do development directly on the tiny platforms, the > remote gdb server is probably better solution than the local gdb. > Also, WITH_SHARED_TOOLCHAIN probably would give you much bigger > savings both in disk space and used memory than libreadline and > libgnuregex. I just abandoned a hope to flip this knob. Alas, if only remote MIPS gdb for (at least kernel) worked.. :-) -a
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