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Date:      Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:49:25 -0500
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
To:        friar_josh@webwarrior.net
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: docs/41865: [PATCH] XFree86 section should document -nolisten tcp option in startx
Message-ID:  <3D64EBE5.5090501@centtech.com>
References:  <200208221240.g7MCe7eB007052@freefall.freebsd.org> 	<3D64E095.6050001@centtech.com> <1030005394.226.23.camel@markx.vladsempire.net>

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I don't recall ever seeing it in 4.5-RELEASE.  Only with XFree86 4.x have I seen 
it (on FreeBSD).  4.5-RELEASE defaulted to XFree86 3.3.6, and never had the 
problem unless you installed XFree86 4.x over it.

I missed the documentation on that, my bad.  However, when you do an upgrade 
(binary) of a box, and something like remote X displays stop working, the first 
thing that crosses your mind is "something is broken", not "I should check the 
man pages for XFree86, startx, xinit, [insert your wm here], [insert your 
favorite remote shell program (ie. ssh, rsh, telnet, etc) here], etc".  I hit 
this problem a long time ago putting XFree86 4.2 on a 4.5-RELEASE machine, so it 
seemed like nothing to me.  Only until yesterday when I received a few emails 
from friends (who now use FreeBSD like it's a drug) asking how to fix it, did it 
occur to me that there should be more docs on it - they checked the handbook, 
FAQ, and a few newsgroups - with no good answers.

Eric


Josh Paetzel wrote:

> It might not be a bad idea to sneak the version of X in where it changed, 
> since there's no reason someone couldn't be running X 3.3.6 with FreeBSD
> 4.6.  I'm also not sure the change occured in 4.6, I seem to remember
> having to deal with this issues in 4.4 or 4.5 maybe.
> 
> I didn't mean to suggest that people change the default startup files
> with my initial response, I was pointing out to the originator of the PR
> that there was indeed documentation about his issue, but maybe it's a
> bit much to suggest one read the man pages for X before running it. ;)
> 
> Josh
> 
> ps yes, I know the faq and handbook are full of information that
> duplicates info given in the man page. 
> 
> 


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