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Date:      Wed, 05 Sep 2001 13:01:50 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org, nate@yogotech.com
Subject:   Re: local changes to CVS tree
Message-ID:  <3B9684AE.31C4FB9F@mindspring.com>
References:  <20010905131027.A5476@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <200109051723.f85HNbl07385@vashon.polstra.com> <3B967827.F166E3A6@mindspring.com> <15254.31457.818766.916542@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109051925.f85JPce08130@vashon.polstra.com>

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John Polstra wrote:
> No, Terry's idea is sound as long as you only try to track one branch
> of FreeBSD.  I.e., you consider FreeBSD to be your vendor, and you do
> a checkout-mode type of fetch from a branch of the FreeBSD repository
> and directly import it onto your own vendor branch.  This would meet
> the needs of a lot of people, e.g., companies who make products based
> on FreeBSD.

Yes, precisely.  People always complain that companies are
gun-shy of -current; the inability to tag a "sufficiently
stable" version is why most companies stay away from it.

This means that most commercially funded work occurs on the
-RELEASE/-STABLE branches, for fear of destabilizing their
products.  Everyone in FreeBSD-land always complains about
this, even as they continue to make -current even less
stable, and less likely to result in them getting funded
help to work on it.  So a lot of forward looking research
takes a lot longer than it should to bear fruit (or wither,
if it turns out to be a net loss).


> I have had this on my to-do list for a long time, but I have no idea
> if or when it'll ever get implemented.  It would require a focused
> period of working on it that I just don't have these days.  Maybe if
> the economy gets worse ...

I hear Hewlett-Compaqard is laying off 15,000, if that's any
incentive...

I guess a better question would be whether funding would help?

-- Terry

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