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Date:      Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:10:58 -0500
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
To:        friar_josh@webwarrior.net
Cc:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: docs/41865: [PATCH] XFree86 section should document -nolisten	tcp option in startx
Message-ID:  <3D64F0F2.7080304@centtech.com>
References:  <200208221240.g7MCe7eB007052@freefall.freebsd.org>	<3D64E095.6050001@centtech.com>	<1030005394.226.23.camel@markx.vladsempire.net> 	<3D64EBE5.5090501@centtech.com> <1030006504.226.27.camel@markx.vladsempire.net>

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Josh Paetzel wrote:

> On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 13:49, Eric Anderson wrote:
> 
>>I don't recall ever seeing it in 4.5-RELEASE.  Only with XFree86 4.x have I seen 
>>it (on FreeBSD).  4.5-RELEASE defaulted to XFree86 3.3.6, and never had the 
>>problem unless you installed XFree86 4.x over it.
>>
>>I missed the documentation on that, my bad.  However, when you do an upgrade 
>>(binary) of a box, and something like remote X displays stop working, the first 
>>thing that crosses your mind is "something is broken", not "I should check the 
>>man pages for XFree86, startx, xinit, [insert your wm here], [insert your 
>>favorite remote shell program (ie. ssh, rsh, telnet, etc) here], etc".  I hit 
>>this problem a long time ago putting XFree86 4.2 on a 4.5-RELEASE machine, so it 
>>seemed like nothing to me.  Only until yesterday when I received a few emails 
>>from friends (who now use FreeBSD like it's a drug) asking how to fix it, did it 
>>occur to me that there should be more docs on it - they checked the handbook, 
>>FAQ, and a few newsgroups - with no good answers.
>>
>>Eric
>>
> 
> Top posting makes mail threads hard to follow.
> 
> I agree with you completely, but my point still stands.  The issue is
> with what version of XFree86 you are running.  It's not really tied to
> what version of FreeBSD you are running very tightly.  If you are going
> to make a FAQ entry you should include the version numbers of X where
> the change occured.
> 
> Josh


Right, that is the issue, but since FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE and newer all come with 
XFree86 4.x as the default X install now, and an upgrade makes the problem 
appear, then it is tied to FreeBSD, although not completely.

If all you're trying to say is "hey, add the versions of XFree86 in the diff", 
then submit a quick followup to the PR, or I can.

Eric



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