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Date:      Tue, 2 May 2000 08:30:48 -0700
From:      "Jeremiah Gowdy" <jgowdy@home.com>
To:        "Sean Kelly" <smkelly@slashnet.org>, "John Papalia" <john@jpepconsulting.com>
Cc:        "Ron Rosson" <insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net>, <advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD and IRC
Message-ID:  <002901bfb44b$658c3ea0$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com>
References:  <20000501183644.A75942@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <000901bfb3f8$c6d6f220$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com> <20000502005033.A68966@edgemaster.zombie.org> <4.3.1.2.20000502103522.00ab5320@mail.udel.edu>

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> What's with the "get a clue" campaign?  The FAQ on freebsd.org says that
> #freebsd is NOT a tech support channel, however it makes NO mention that
> there is a channel called #freebsdhelp.

Oh, so that makes it ok to go into #freebsd ANYWAY and ask a bunch of
questions, even though the freebsd.org FAQ states that it is not a help
channel.

> So, don't you think it would be more HELPFUL to provide the information,
> instead of just demanding clue-acquistion?  You'd be amazed at how many
> people stop bugging you with questions you don't want to hear then.

Half the time the topic in the channel is "THIS IS NOT A HELP CHANNEL.  TRY
#FREEBSDHELP".  And yet people will still ask their question and get banned.
It's just kinda like natural selection.  If you can take the time to learn
what's what before you go in busting out questions, you're not going to get
banned. And the bans aren't even perm anyway, so what's everyone crying
about ?

The point is, people aren't going to bow down and change the rules because
some dorks asking a question in the wrong place are getting a little
disgruntled.  That's the whole idea.  Maybe if they get a little pissed off
they'll pull their heads out of their asses and try to figure out WHY they
got banned, and what's the proper way to go about getting some help.  If
they refuse to learn, and simply go to one of the email lists acting all
Promethian, beating their breast over how they were wronged, then they will
continue to float in the river of ignorance.



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