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Date:      Tue, 27 May 2008 16:46:59 +0200
From:      Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
To:        "Steven G. Kargl" <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, linimon@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: ports/123879: databases/db41 fails during configure
Message-ID:  <483C1EE3.8060900@gmx.de>
In-Reply-To: <200805271413.m4REDbZ4051415@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
References:  <200805271413.m4REDbZ4051415@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>

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Steven G. Kargl schrieb:
> Matthias Andree wrote:
> [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ]
>> Steven G. Kargl schrieb:
>>> Matthias Andree wrote:
>>>> The patch is rejected, db41 is fine on all -STABLE and -RELEASE AFAICT.
>>>>
>>>> Insult as incentive? Won't work for me.
>>>> You just forfeited any chance of my looking at your issue.
>>>>
>>> Whatever.  You already sent me two private emails that
>>> state you have no intention of fixing the port.
>>>
>>> The bug report should remain open.  A maintainer (and 
>>> I use this term very loosely), who is too lazy to maintain
>>> his port, is a poor excuse for suspending a bug report.
>> Open Source communities don't work the "jump when I tell you" way.
> 
> I never told you to jump.
> 
> Your refusal as the maintainer to maintain your port is a
> poor excuse for suspending the bug report.  If you don't
> have time or the initiative to maintain the port, then
> drop maintainership.

Your defamations can stop right there. I am not refusing to maintain the
port, I am refusing to waste my time by chasing moving targets when people
don't actually need the port for their purposes.

I suggest that you re-read
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html

"23.2.1.3 What Is FreeBSD-CURRENT Not?
...
   3. In any way “officially supported”. We do our best to help people
genuinely in one of the 3 “legitimate” FreeBSD-CURRENT groups, but we
simply do not have the time to provide tech support. This is not because we
are mean and nasty people who do not like helping people out (we would not
even be doing FreeBSD if we were). We simply cannot answer hundreds
messages a day and work on FreeBSD! Given the choice between improving
FreeBSD and answering lots of questions on experimental code, the
developers opt for the former."

I claim the same exclusion for my ports support.

> I'll also note that I sent a patch that you rejected.

The patch would have broken the port on system where it compiles and works
just fine, what do you expect?

Fix the bug, or work around it. See if re-running a re-running autoconf
suffices and submit a patch to do just that on FreeBSD 8 if it does.

I'm certainly not tweaking db41 for an unstable changing moving current
shapeshifting system that might not need the tweak tomorrow.

And now stop wasting everybody's time.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
  						-- John Lennon, 1980



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