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Date:      Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:12:48 +0200
From:      Max Laier <max@love2party.net>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys _task.h
Message-ID:  <200407281812.57274.max@love2party.net>
In-Reply-To: <20040728160852.GA21481@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>
References:  <200407280912.i6S9CsfA088910@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040728091920.GU82302@elvis.mu.org> <20040728160852.GA21481@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>

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On Wednesday 28 July 2004 18:08, Brooks Davis wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 11:19:20AM +0200, Maxime Henrion wrote:
> > Maxime Henrion wrote:
> > > mux         2004-07-28 09:12:54 UTC
> > >
> > >   FreeBSD src repository
> > >
> > >   Modified files:
> > >     sys/sys              _task.h
> > >   Log:
> > >   Remove (at least temporarily) the check that prevents us from
> > > including this file from userland.  Since we export struct ifnet to
> > > userland, and that struct ifnet now contains a struct task, userland
> > > needs to know what struct task looks like.
> > >
> > >   We need to consider having a pointer to a struct task here instead
> > > and forward declare struct task in the !_KERNEL case.
> >
> > Or have a struct ifnet for kernel and a struct xifnet for userland, as =
we
> > do in other places.
>
> No, that won't work.  There is no valid reason for userland applications
> to use struct ifnet.  They only use it because the authors were lazy
> and access things like interface stats via kvm access to ifnet instead
> of via the generally adaquate sysctls.  I'm seriously tempted to wrap
> if_var.h in something like, at least once we get our useland clean:
>
> #if defined(_KERNEL) || defined(IF_VAR_H_IS_NOT_A_VALID_USERLAND_INTERFAC=
E)

Strongly seconded! Everything the userland needs to know about interfaces=20
should come from sysctls or <net/if.h> via ioctls.

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