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Date:      Sat, 8 May 1999 19:54:03 -0500 (EST)
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>
To:        Otto Solares <solca@fisicc-ufm.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux under load
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.990508192709.7628g-100000@cygnus.rush.net>
In-Reply-To: <37349B3F.9D830C1C@fisicc-ufm.edu>

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On Sat, 8 May 1999, Otto Solares wrote:

> > >Sera entonces que si hace todo esto no puede con
> > >grandes cargas? Sera que es un OS de desktop?
> > >Si ustedes saben de algun otro sistema
> > >operativo que haga todo esto y ademas este creciendo
> > >mas que linux en popularidad
> > ok, so your point is: It doesn=B4t matter if it can handle lots of
> > load, or is a "desktop OS" because linux can do all theese other
> > tings?
>=20
> No, linux can handle a lots of load AND DO this other things, ask
> DejaNews

here's something fun to do on FreeBSD AND Linux, download the latest
version of wine:

ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/ALPHA/wine/development/Wine-990426.tar.gz

unpack it, run configure, run "gmake -j" walk away...

you might want to set TMPDIR=3D$HOME/tmp or something...

As far as your previous posts on clustering Linux for large ray-tracing
applications... That's very nice, but it's not that amazing of an
accomplishment, most of these supercomputer type applications do not
stress the OS, they just spin a lot of CPU cycles, no real load is
being put on the boxes.

> > Who cares about reliability anyway?
>=20
> Don't think so:
>=20
>     Domain : RIPE+.edu
>      DName  : ---------
>      Service: ftp+news+www
>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      Date   : April `99
>=20
>=20
>   Host OS recognized (grouped, sorted)    01/99  %recog      04/99 =20
> %recog  +/-%  =20
>   ------------------------------------  -------  ------    -------=20
> -------  ----  =20
>             1.(   )              Linux   287093    28.5     399748   =20
> 31.3  +2.8  =20
>                                                                          =
 =20
> ^^^^^^
>             4.(   )         BSD Family   150961    15.0     186385   =20
> 14.6  -0.4=20
>                                                                          =
 =20
> ^^^^^^ =20
>=20
> So, all this people don't care about realiability for servers not to
> mention desktop?
> So because is very unreliable is gaining more server share than *BSD?

It's been hyped up much more.  Windows probably has a 10 times greater
audiance on the desktop, does that make it _better_?  Be fair.

You can't have it both ways.

> I don't want a flame war. And my real point is that linux is a very good
> OS.
> So don't miss this point, if you think that attacking linux your OS will
> get
> more acceptance you are wrong. The FreeBSD community got a lot to win if
> linux
> win. What i think about FreeBSD? Ok, a good OS, certainly i will not
> take off my
> linux boxes for FreeBSD, although i work with FreeBSD servers at work :)

oh really? :)

>=20
> I think is better now to think how to make FreeBSD to not loose more
> server
> share than attack linux with FUD.
>=20
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> microsofish ahh? ;)

er, yeah, running on FreeBSD webservers....

Linux is a fine OS, my preference is FreeBSD, I just wish you'd stop=20
ranting and flaming people on the FreeBSD advocacy list.  You're like
the AOLers on alt.tasteless that say, "eww, ick, gross!" =20

This just isn't the best place for Linux evangilism.  Many of us have
been burned by Linux in the past and are not its biggest fans.

thanks,
-Alfred



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