Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 21:00:48 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>, scott@statsci.com, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building inside of /usr/src? Message-ID: <2033.835934448@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jun 1996 21:40:28 MDT." <199606280340.VAA13086@rocky.mt.sri.com>
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> While this sounds good, you tend to steamroll over *anyone* who might > use the 'functionality that is complex'. And, you're attitude when it's > brought up is 'Who cares, nobody uses it' and/or 'Anyone that uses it is > a fool' and/or 'it was broken before, I just fixed it'. Sigh. If I thought there was some way to discuss this reasonably and constructively with you then I would, but it doesn't appear possible. I'm not even going to bother replying to your individual points since you wouldn't be willing to see any merit in my position anyway, having already decided that my logic is faulty and my methods haphazard. All my replies seem to lead to is more arguing, and to be frank you're making less and less sense as we go along (if we were converging towards MORE sense then I'd be making changes for you or backing things out, as I did at the beginning of this discussion). At this point I'm simply going to assume that further debate is pointless and wait until someone who's actually been directly affected by my latest PWD change reports in. Despite your obvious belief to the contrary, I'm NOT totally convinced about the latest change and made it simply because it seemed like the best way of keeping people like Michael Reifenberger from shooting their feet off. If someone can demonstrate a real-world *FreeBSD* example that is now broken in our current `make world' environment (in other words, don't even talk to me about multiple architectures or Apollo boxes in bizarre heterogeneous network arrangements since I have better things to do than debate pure theory) then I'm always willing to listen. Finally, this is NOT me being "dismissive" of any and all criticism because I don't like criticism, this is me saying that Nate is full of it (and himself) and I don't particularly care to waste my time jumping around for his entertainment. It seems that every time I fail to bow down before the strength of whatever argument Nate's advancing, I get hit with charges of being autocratic or heavy-handed - it's the old "be reasonable, do it MY way!" argument and the irony of being told that I'm being stubborn, inflexible and heavy-handed by someone in a very stubborn, inflexible and heavy-handed way is almost palpable. Jordan
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