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Date:      Thu, 8 May 2003 11:36:12 -0700
From:      "David O'Brien" <arch@freebsd.org>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: /rescue
Message-ID:  <20030508183612.GA56264@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030508.110858.91024289.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <20030508.093911.48456930.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030508165844.GO76376@roark.gnf.org> <20030508.110858.91024289.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:08:58AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 09:39:11AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : > 
> : > Tim posted this a while ago to hackers@.  It looked like it was
> : > further along than what's been posted here.
> : 
> : Actually, Tim's and my work are complimentary. I hadn't worked on
> : getting a /rescue, /stand, /ohcrap directory. Personally, I agree
> : with David O'Brien that it should be called /stand since we have
> : precedence (and documentation in hier(7)) for that.
> 
> NetBSD put them in /rescue.  /stand has been phased out over the past
> few years.  There's precident many ways.

How has it been phased out??  My 5.0-RELEASE install certainly has a
/stand with the contents of:
    sh arp camcontrol cpio dhclient find fsck_ffs hostname ifconfig
    minigzip mount_nfs newfs ppp pwd rm route rtsol sed slattach test
    tunefs usbd usbdevs zcat

I've used /stand several times to recover from bad events.  I would call
it phased out or useless.  The fact that we don't update it during 'make
world' no one has felt the need until now.



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