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Date:      Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:13:24 +0200
From:      Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        trhodes@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, jhb@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src Makefile README
Message-ID:  <20060621221324.GA1254@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20060621.160706.1606922361.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <20060620193458.42040d97.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <200606211306.36770.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060621.123456.232930587.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060621.160706.1606922361.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 04:07:06PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote..
> In message: <20060621.123456.232930587.imp@bsdimp.com>
>             "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:
> : In message: <200606211306.36770.jhb@freebsd.org>
> :             John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> writes:
> : : The nature of the compromise over 'make world' was that rather than removing 
> : : the knob we'd leave it undocumented so that new users aren't tempted to use 
> : : it, but instead will revert to using buildworld/installworld as they ought to 
> : : if they get a failure running 'make world'.  If we are going to document the 
> : : knob and thus make it user-supported, we might as well remove it and just 
> : : make 'make world' user-supported.
> : 
> : The problem with making it 'user-supported' is that it really is a
> : dangerous tool for the normal user.  Sure, it mostly works, most of
> : the time, for most situations.  However, when it fails, it fails in an
> : unsafe way.  It fails in a way that can't be backed out from easily,
> : meaning someone will have to boot distribution media to back out to a
> : known good state.  These events are rare, but totally #@$@!!@@#$ the
> : user.
> : 
> : And we're back to the compromise that we had before...
> 
> Unless we want to require I_KNOW_WORLD_CAN_HURT_ME instead of
> HISTORICAL_MAKE_WORLD :-)

make world -DBEATMEBEATMEYEAH..

:-P

Wilko Bulte				wilko@FreeBSD.org



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