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Date:      Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:53:10 +0200
From:      Emanuel Strobl <Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        Eirik =?iso-8859-1?q?=D8verby?= <ltning@anduin.net>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 Available
Message-ID:  <200507152253.26648@harrymail>
In-Reply-To: <635F9EBB-6C5E-4437-ABDE-99D0540BC774@anduin.net>
References:  <42D79676.6040606@samsco.org> <200507151711.05970@harrymail> <635F9EBB-6C5E-4437-ABDE-99D0540BC774@anduin.net>

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Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 22:12 CEST schrieb Eirik =D8verby:
> On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Emanuel Strobl wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 16:58 CEST schrieb Marc G. Fournier:
> >> And, for "the stupid question of the day" ... how long before 5.x
> >> is no
> >> longer supported?  I'm just about to deploy a new server, and was
> >> *going* to go with 5.x, but would I be better just skipping 5.x
> >> altogether?  Or are there such drastic changes in 6.x that doing
> >> so at
> >> this time wouldn't be prudent?
> >
> > To post my opinion to the last part of the question: I'm also
> > deploying new
> > servers and I'll take RELENG_6 since there are so many improovements
> > (nullfs in jails etc.) and 6-current has been pretty stable for me
> > on my
>
> Hoi,
> what's changed wrt jails? And nullfs? I haven't been following the
> "news" as closely as I perhaps should, but I feel that the jail
> functionality doesn't get half as much attention in release notes as
> it should... Porting my jail-related tools to 5.x from 4.x was
> painful, but enjoyable when I was done. How does 6.x look?

I'm not the developer guy so I can't tell you anything authoritative but I=
=20
know that there has been an awful perfomance degradation when mounting=20
nullfs-filesystems into a jail under RELENG_5, espacially noticable with=20
apache! I just know that Jeff Roberson committed incredible lots of vm/vfs=
=20
changes, perhaps this also solved the md performance problem, at least the=
=20
nullfs problem was solved!

Jail management was also a lot improved, but that was back in 5.4 I think.
I'll do some extensive Jail test the next view weeks, I fear there are=20
oddities left (I had plenty of them with milter-sender and apache's=20
mod_proxy for example under 5.4)

=2DHarry

>
> /Eirik
>
> > UP workstation with all kinds of new stuff enabled (ULE
> > PREEMPTION), so I
> > guess I won't see more troubles than with 5.4, I think less :)
> >
> > -Harry
> >
> >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Scott Long wrote:
> >>> Announcement
> >>> ------------
> >>>
> >>> The FreeBSD Release Engineering Team is pleased to announce the
> >>> availability of FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1, which marks the beginning of the
> >>> FreeBSD 6.0 Release Cycle.
> >>>
> >>> FreeBSD 6.0 will be a much less dramatic step from the FreeBSD 5
> >>> branch than the FreeBSD 5 branch was from FreeBSD 4.  Much of the
> >>> work
> >>> that has gone into 6.0 development has focused on polishing and
> >>> improving the work from 5.x  These changes include streamlining
> >>> direct
> >>> device access in the kernel, providing a multi-threaded SMP-safe
> >>> UFS/VFS filesystem layer, implementing WPA and Host-AP 802.11
> >>> features, as well as countless bugfixes and device driver
> >>> improvements.  Major updates and improvements have been made to ACPI
> >>> power and thermal management, ATA, and many aspects of the network
> >>> infrastructure.  32bit application support for AMD64 is also greatly
> >>> improved, as is compatiblity with certain Athlon64 motherboards.
> >>> This
> >>> release is also the first to feature experimental PowerPC support
> >>> for
> >>> the Macintosh G3 and G4 platforms.
> >>>
> >>> This BETA1 release is in the same basic format as the Monthly
> >>> Snapshots. For most of the architectures only the ISO images are
> >>> available though the FTP install tree is available for a couple
> >>> of the
> >>> architectures.
> >>>
> >>> We encourage people to help with testing so any final bugs can be
> >>> identified and worked out.  Availability of ISO images is given
> >>> below.
> >>> If you have an older system you want to update using the normal
> >>> CVS/cvsup source based upgrade the branch tag to use is RELENG_6
> >>> (though that will change for the Release Candidates later).  Problem
> >>> reports can be submitted using the send-pr(1) command.
> >>>
> >>> The list of open issues and things still being worked on are on the
> >>> todo list:
> >>>
> >>>     http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/todo.html
> >>>
> >>> Since this is the first release of a new branch we only have a rough
> >>> idea for some of the dates.  The current rough schedule is available
> >>> but most dates are still listed as "TBD - To Be Determined":
> >>>
> >>>     http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html
> >>>
> >>> Known Issues
> >>> ------------
> >>>
> >>> For the PowerPC architecture /etc/fstab isn't written out
> >>> properly, so
> >>> the first boot throws you into the mountroot> prompt.  You will need
> >>> to manually enter where the root partition is and fix /etc/fstab.
> >>> Also the GEM driver is listed as 'unknown' in the network config
> >>> dialog.
> >>>
> >>> For all architectures a kernel rebuild might be needed to get some
> >>> FreeBSD 5 applications to run.  Add "options COMPAT_FREEBSD5" to the
> >>> kernel configuration file if you have problems with FreeBSD 5
> >>> executables.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Availability
> >>> ------------
> >>>
> >>> The BETA1 ISOs and FTP support are available on most of the FreeBSD
> >>> Mirror sites.  A list of the mirror sites is available here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-
> >>> ftp.
> >>> html
> >>>
> >>> The MD5s are:
> >>>
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-bootonly.iso) =3D
> >>> eabda0a086e5492fe43626ce5be1d7e1
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-alpha-disc1.iso) =3D d7fe900bb3d5f259cc3cc565c4f303e4
> >>>
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-bootonly.iso) =3D
> >>> 9b04cb2f68300071c717f4aa4220bdac
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso) =3D cb0f21feaf8b7dd9621f82a8157f6ed8
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-amd64-disc2.iso) =3D 84d40bc291a9ed5cd69dfa717445eeb5
> >>>
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-bootonly.iso) =3D 38e0b202ee7d279bae002b883f7074ec
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc1.iso) =3D b2baa8c18d4637ef02822a0da6717408
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-i386-disc2.iso) =3D 2b151a3cea8843d322c75ff76779ffcf
> >>>
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-bootonly.iso) =3D 97800ec7d4b29927a8e66a2b53e987fb
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-disc1.iso) =3D 7d29cd9317997136507078971762a0d8
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-ia64-livefs.iso) =3D 6ff974e60a3964cf16fcec05925c14e9
> >>>
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-pc98-disc1.iso) =3D 40a3134cce89bd5f7033d8b9181edf91
> >>>
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-bootonly.iso) =3D
> >>> 2f64974e9bd5adcf813f5d35ff742443 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-powerpc-disc1.iso) =3D
> >>> b2562c38414ff4866f5ed8b3a38683c8
> >>>
> >>> MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-bootonly.iso) =3D
> >>> ae9610aeb1169d2cc649628606014441 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc1.iso) =3D
> >>> af21752630b13cf60c9498fbf7f793b6 MD5 (6.0-BETA1-sparc64-disc2.iso) =3D
> >>> 3241af814bfe93a97707c7a964c57718
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to Ken Smith, Marcel Moolenaar, Wilko Bulte, and Takahashi
> >>> Yoshihiro, and Peter Grehan for doing the sparc64, ia64, alpha,
> >>> pc98,
> >>> and ppc builds, respectively.  Thanks also to Ken Smith for his help
> >>> on writing much of this announcement.
> >>> --
> >>> This mail is for the internal use of the FreeBSD project committers,
> >>> and as such is private. This mail may not be published or forwarded
> >>> outside the FreeBSD committers' group or disclosed to other
> >>> unauthorised parties without the explicit permission of the author
> >>> (s).
> >>
> >> ----
> >> Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services
> >> (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!:
> >> yscrappy
> >>            ICQ: 7615664
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