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Date:      Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:32:50 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        "Russell L. Carter" <rcarter@pinyon.org>, "Dave J. Boers" <djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Still system hangs, but different
Message-ID:  <20000111233250.R9397@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <200001120703.XAA67832@apollo.backplane.com>; from dillon@apollo.backplane.com on Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 11:03:27PM -0800
References:  <20000112054825.436AB61@pinyon.org> <200001120703.XAA67832@apollo.backplane.com>

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* Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> [000111 23:27] wrote:
> :%:I have. 
> :%
> :%    Wait a sec.  I've reviewed all the messages from you and I think something
> :%    got mixed together.  I'm not convinced that your particular problems
> :%    are softupdates related.  I recommend turning off softupdates entirely
> :%    for a few days to find out.
> :
> :Oh they are quite surely softupdates related.
> :
> :I got the "X still sorta works but anything that touches the disk wedges"
> :flu today on a very current current.  Triggered by a cc build on
> :(soft) linked filesystem, cured by reverting back a week or so.
> :
> :And yes, it is quite certainly v. 1.47 and ata.
> :
> :NBD..., if it was a real barrier to progress I'd disable softupdates.
> :
> :Regards,
> :Russell
> 
>     I think what we need to concentrate on is figuring out exactly what
>     is being wedged on.  Hence my DDB suggestion below.
> 
>     Reverting to an old -current doesn't guarentee that it's softupdates.
>     If you turn off softupdates with tunefs on the filesystems and see 
>     if it occurs with a new kernel that will tell us for sure.  (But the
>     DDB suggestion is more important, that will tell us exactly what is
>     going on).

I'm finding it easy to reboot a box by simply doing a cvsup and
downloading a repo, I'm recompiling everything right now without
softupdates but if you wanted what seems to be an easy to reproduce
crash, try checking out the postgresql repo via cvsup.

-Alfred


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