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Date:      Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:43 WET
From:      uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV)
To:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, phk@critter.tfs.com
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, bugs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Bugs in/near installation 1104 SNAP 
Message-ID:  <m0tDBiY-000J4kC@nemesis.lonestar.org>

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> As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > 
> > > ****	Warning: calculated sectors per cylinder (4000) disagrees with
> > > ****	disk label (1008)
> 
> Why is this `warning' still there?  I've shot it in disklabel(8), and
> i know David has been pulling the fix into 2.1, too.

[4]It's also in newfs...

> > > 	Isn't this a totally horrible and inefficient way to manage a disk?
> > 
> > Talk to Poul-Henning.. :-)  We've been over this one before.  Again, I
> > probably won't try to address this one.
> 
> It's only inefficient for Real Disks (e.g. an ST251A ``Kalashnikov'' :).

[4]Actually it isn't that inefficient, the cylinder/rotational stuff doesn't
[4]buy you much unless you have at least 10 heads...

> That raises the question: what are owners of such poor devices
> supposed to do in order to avoid the faked geometry?

[4]Well, they can give params to newfs from the menu in sysinstall, or they
[4]can do it on the commandline later.

I was somewhat annoyed by the messages, but really annoyed by the reduction of
alternate superblocks, which I thought was computed based on the
number of cylinder groups.  If the cylinder groups are made absurdly huge,
that calculation falls down.  Perhaps this has been changed, but since
100Meg only got 3 alternates, and I recall my old VAX 11/780 on 4.3BSD
had 13 or so on the 80Meg (RM03) primary, I think this is bad.

FYI, the newfs man page says that if the s/g value is NOT 4096, it will be
impossible for fsck to find alternate superblocks.  4000s/c != 4096s/g.

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