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Date:      Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:26:55 +0000
From:      Jens Rehsack <rehsack@liwing.de>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ports/58840: [PATCH] exclude possiblyunrequireddependenciesfrom x11/gnome2
Message-ID:  <3FA62D6F.3030603@liwing.de>
In-Reply-To: <20031103111219.2f648450.Alexander@Leidinger.net>
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Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:39:49 +0000
> Jens Rehsack <rehsack@liwing.de> wrote:
> 
> 
>>>I don't want to push this change into the tree, but I think it would be
>>>a good idea to have it. The sole reason of this mail is to understand
>>>the reasoning of the rejection.
>>
>>As far I understood, x11/gnome2 and x11/gnome2-fifth-toe are ports as
>>specified by the Gnome team. So the ports installed by this port are
>>defined by specification.
> 
> 
> Let's have a look at the quakeforge port. Without specifying any knobs
> it installs all files defined by specification (as in: "the authors
> specify files x, y and z as the files which should get installed by
> default"). But the port also has some knobs which allows an user who
> knows what he wants to modify this specification (e.g. without servers,
> without client and/or without tools). quakeforce isn't split into
> several ports as gnome is, but it isn't as large as gnome is. In my POV
> both ports are equal, so why do we threat them differently?
> 
> XFree86-4 was converted into a meta-port a while ago to offer the
> possibility to only install parts of it. While it doesn't has knobs to
> allow this on XFree86-4 level, it doesn't need to, as there aren't as
> many packages as gnome needs to install. So we offer an easy possibility
> for XFree86-4. Why can't we offer something similar for gnome?

You can as you can do with XFree86-4. Neither more nor less :-)
Of course, like with XFree86-4, you cannot install the meta-port
but you must install each component depending your own decision
separately.

Jens



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