Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 21:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> To: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich) Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: MAJOR problem with FreeBSD-2.0-RELEASE Message-ID: <199505220429.VAA04277@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> In-Reply-To: <199505220315.UAA07572@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Charles Henrich" at May 21, 95 11:15:40 pm
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> > I will not be pursuaded to change my stance on Bus Logic due to past > record. There current record is horrible, and that is enough for me > to pursuade people to seek alternatives, realize I sell these products, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Wait a minute, your telling me that because the support for the buslogic cards > are broken (when not two weeks ago it was the card suggested as the best and > most reliable by many on the freebsd-hackers lists) that we should buy > different cards instead of fixing the broken drivers? No, that is not what I said. Bus Logic cards are *broken* with respect to there bt946 working with PCI motherboards. It has nothing to do with booting FreeBSD, it has to do with the fact that I can't take a brand new BT946 and plug it in the 5 different PCI motherboards I have and expect it to work. Rather than be getting past POST, or even installing DOS on the box. Bus Logic has been pointing fingers at MB manufactures the whole time saying that motherboard manufactures don't under stand how the PCI scsi BIOS is to work. Well, gee, it seems I can take my 2940 and plug it in all the boards and it works, I can take my NCR 810 and plug it in and it all works (this is with an NCR card that has it's own BIOS on it and I disable the MB NCR support). But when I try that Bt946 card, it don't. I've been through 4 revs of PROMS for the cards, and I have to very carefull match the PROMS to the MB to get it to work. If you want to read another person's horry story about Bus Logic and PCI MB, I can dig up the pointer to Paul Vixies home page, he has been here just like me. (Only he has to keep using the Bus Logic as BSDI does not (yet) have support for any other PCI disk controller.) > If this is how broken > drivers are handled (okay, dont use THAT one) FreeBSD has some serious > problems... Tell me Im misunderstanding something here, afterall I know I > chose FreeBSD over Linux primarily because I felt it was better supported with > a central core team and such. Is this not a true statement? I can't debug the bt742.c driver if I can't get there bloody cards to play with motherboards. I can't get there bloody cards to play with my new series of MB, because I can't get tech support from them to get the new proms to try and make it work with yet another set of boards. Just to make sure I am clear here, I can't install DOS on any of my PCI systems using a Bus Logic BT946C except 1 because the card at revision 4.84/4.21 will not talk to the motherboard. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD
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