Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 06:20:05 -0400 From: "J. Hellenthal" <jhell@DataIX.net> To: Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> Subject: Re: bad email address Message-ID: <20110422102005.GA12433@DataIX.net> In-Reply-To: <20110421170424.GC73035@in-addr.com> References: <BANLkTi=MhGVSBhb52PCop%2Bo-75iT3FA6oA@mail.gmail.com> <20110420212354.GB73035@in-addr.com> <20110421042639.GB91477@DataIX.net> <BANLkTi=vAK9LU=PQ0gULuPu4rQ7eRXL1bw@mail.gmail.com> <1303360894.3063.1.camel@blaze.homeip.net> <20110421123447.GD4543@straylight.ringlet.net> <20110421170424.GC73035@in-addr.com>
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--dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 01:04:24PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote: >On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 03:34:47PM +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:41:34AM -0400, Paul Blazejowski wrote: >> > doesn't mailman unsubscribe an email automatically after a couple of >> > bounces? unless freebsd list is not configured to do so... >>=20 >> That's only if the bounce message reaches mailman. In this case, >> the culprit is a mail bouncing agent (MBA? ;) which addresses >> the bounce to the original sender (the one from the From header) >> instead of *any* of the other possible addresses present in >> mailman-generated messages that would do the right thing. > >RFCs say bounces have to go to the envelope sender. MailMan correctly >changes the envelope sender of mail to freebsd-security to >owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org so that it can see the NDRs (non-delive= ry >reports). However some broken software boucnes to the From address in >the header. Since the From address in the header is *not* MailMan it cann= ot >auto-unsubscribe the bouncing user. > >If the bouncing users MTA/MUA doesn't follow specifications there isn't >a lot MailMan can do > Yes and then repeated report after report mailman blah blah postmaster more blah blah user repeatedly offending blah blah moderator removes offending domain until the its fixed blah blah... Sometime in the near future... ;) --=20 Regards, J. Hellenthal WWJD --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://bit.ly/0x89D8547E iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNsVZUAAoJEJBXh4mJ2FR+NEEH/3XgWQyVg8ErqeZ0jwVhWlEv HabXw/hQ4NtUlLhQrD4Gk5OtDMyee75l3VKHwsQVb2a+Y/6LI1dP7xpjysuhXjWU sLDmrYRJYbVyRnrVjmRWtJsrRlSJ6g46ZRpWaVE8sWEJ80LFj9MggRNQdaBVAi7V jGO1aNNXZmV4VSGQYy4y/o8UVtlYeUTqiotn5Ebzfls/WBgUQjSo1B9ry8sG7HlW 9zZf/nmyHTnZrRggr/lAgRBLi+2dwYTH4s0l4S5Gxx6OKTvqvBCMADbkqcymszHG 8uHX1reSdGaIZYI4+8MoeLCVyoaOOD0QTg6vepn4bEcneFi7OP50WzaY+h0dLHc= =cHXP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx--
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