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Date:      Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:37:00 -0500 (EST)
From:      Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
To:        Cliff Sarginson <cls@raggedclown.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions LIST <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Ports base? [hear me roar Cliff]
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> Took the words right out of my mouth.
> Peter, these things get done by people doing them. That is the tautology
> of the situation. You might find your name in lights if you become that
> "someone" who does it.

Does the "producer" (i.e. purse bearer) get a credit next to the programmer?

> Btw you might consider the use of the "refuse" file if you wish to not
> download certain ports or categories of ports. I suppose if you put
> everything in the "refuse" file you may still get the ports framework,
> for whatever that is worth. My refuse file eliminates all the ports for
> the languages I don't speak, anything to do with palms, the new
> financial category and some others.

I have considered that but that was 1.33 seconds ago then I decided to come
to my senses and realize that your suggestion is a bottom-up approach.  The
preferred cvsup path for me would be a top-down approach (starting at the
tip of the pyramid with just what I want, rather than starting at the base
of the pyramid and eliminating 99.9999% of my choices).

> Remember one of the advantages of having the tree is that by browsing
> the README's you may find just the program you are looking for without

That would be the beauty of a script or binary; As it walks the user
through prompts (please enter a port, please enter a cvs host, would you
like to customize any flags?) it would teach the user by showing the
command lines.  Maybe it's just me.

> having to ask for it. If you are so tight on disk space you may have a
> problem building anything anyway. Get someone to buy you a bigger disk
> for Christmas :).
> Regards
>    Cliff Sarginson
>    The Netherlands

Space isn't really an issue after all, but the concept of not being able to
hone in on one specific port is.  This is not stubbornness, as my intention
is for further debate about the usefulness of something a few notches above
pkg_add -r and a few notches below cvsup ; make install clean mergemaster etc

--
Peter Leftwich
President & Founder, Video2Video Services
Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA
http://Www.Video2Video.Com

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