Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 12:10:16 -0500 From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org> To: R Skinner <rocky@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk volumes under "places" in file manager Message-ID: <4F009378.20606@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4EFF9D46.3090501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4EF9776D.3090500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <87sjk4zmpb.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> <4EFBC04B.5080203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFD1FA6.40801@freebsd.org> <4EFD31A6.7050205@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFD4FE9.70109@freebsd.org> <4EFD91F4.5060807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFDE4BA.9060009@freebsd.org> <4EFE441E.3080700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFE472C.8090304@freebsd.org> <4EFE4C76.8010002@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EFF2F36.6080706@freebsd.org> <4EFF9D46.3090501@herveybayaustralia.com.au>
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On 12/31/11 6:39 PM, R Skinner wrote: > On 01/01/12 01:50, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >> On 12/30/11 6:42 PM, R Skinner wrote: >>> I don't know either. I'll have a look at the date it was published and >>> see how far off they are from completion. I only asked because *if* it >>> is coming then my own project would be pointless to pursue on any large >>> scale, only as a bandaid solution until its arrival. Also depending on >>> what FreeBSD policy will be on how it will be implemented. >> Not sure what you're working on, but there is always a need to improve >> the way GNOME integrates with FreeBSD. I'm sure no one would be opposed >> to someone taking a serious look at obsoleting hal on FreeBSD. A port >> of the various udev-based libraries from Linux would be nice (upower is >> done), but anything that accomplishes easy automounting and volume >> management would be a good start. > My intention is not to port udev system, but to leverage the devd system > (which I believe it is based on anyway- just in userspace) which is more > complete and already working within the FreeBSD system. From what I have > read I don't believe dbus is going anywhere, so I don't see it as > impossible using this system (as long as I can figure out how to use > dbus :) ). > > I was intending only to help the mounting system, but it does appear > this is getting bigger than Ben Hur. Once I figure out a reasonable > method for disks it should be a simple procedure to get acpi and what > not to work as well. My aim is to use what facilities FreeBSD has to > attain what linux has done, and possibly assist even console users. > > I use Icewm, so I wasn't entirely interested in Gnome support, but it > appears they're related in the backend and the file managers seem to be > Gnome based. Kde should be only an extension of this. And as I > mentioned, if this is where the gtk developers hang out at FreeBSD then > I'd better subscribe so I'm plugged in :) What we need is exactly what you describe. Hal is not a "GNOME component." The GNOME team maintains it because we did the initial work to port it. We need a new system based on native FreeBSD components that can speak to the various desktops. Something that leverages devd and kqueue and can speak dbus would be extremely useful to GNOME, KDE, xfce, and possibly other desktops within FreeBSD. Joe -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome
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