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Date:      Sun, 3 Mar 2002 22:21:52 -0500
From:      Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org>
To:        ken burk <kburk@midsouth.rr.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Thank You
Message-ID:  <20020304032152.14FE1BA05@i8k.babbleon.org>
In-Reply-To: <3C82E3C2.641464CF@midsouth.rr.com>
References:  <3C82E3C2.641464CF@midsouth.rr.com>

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Ever heard of blank lines?

Just a couple quick things:

1. Ctl-Alt-+/- is the keypad +/- not the regular +/-.  That could be an issue.

2. Bill can't sell his so cheap because he pays his programmers.  FreeBSD is 
all volunteer labor--when you bought that package you bought the *packaging* 
and the manual, not the software, which is after all, free.  This important 
to realize, too, in terms of support.

3. X configuration is still way harder than it ought to be.  That's a major 
drawback of Free Software.

4. If you want a fairly "comfortable" interactive experience, install KDE or 
Gnome.

5. FreeBSD is never likely to get super-GUIfied as that's not where the 
interests of most FreeBSD developers lie--and when you don't pay developers, 
you have to let them work on what interests them!

6. Some Linuxes--like Mandrake--are more "hold your hand" Unixes.  I actually 
switched from Mandrake to FreeBSD because Mandrake had gotten to darn "user 
friendly" (hand holding = hard to fix if broken) for me.  Linux is not *as* 
stable or *as* fast as FreeBSD, nor is it *as* elegant, but it is more of all 
of those than Windows, and it's also more "hand holding" than FreeBSD, though 
not as much as Windows.

So if you want a not-quite-as-extreme switch from M$, you might like Linux

That said, if you've made it this far, I'd invite you to stay with FreeBSD.  
It's the pure unadalterated experience.


On Sunday 03 March 2002 10:02 pm, you wrote:
> I just want to write a quick note here and say a big Thank You to all
> the people who are developing and useing this wonderfull operating
> system.I am a home user that spends at least 7 hours per day online and
> am quite good at finding anything I want to download.I have run about
> every os that M$ has ever put out includeing xp corporate pro and the
> new .net enterprise server and the FreeBsd 4.5 I downloaded last
> sunday/monday beats them all hands down.The responce is awesome as
> windoze has never worked this fast or felt so stable.I like it so much
> that I went to comp usa yesterday and bought the FreeBsd powerpack 4.4
> for 69 dollars.I'm still running the 4.5 I downloaded but the powerpack
> came with 10 cd's and an 800 page book (why cant bill sell his that
> cheap??xp pro is 299.00,has 1 cd and a booklet and is such a resourse
> hog).I had never run any form of unix before and only knew the ls
> command when I did the standard install but I quickly got onto the man
> command and 2 nights later got it online with dhcp client,e-mail and
> yahoo messenger setup.It's a whole new ballgame to me and im haveing to
> much fun and with so many free apps,tools and updates to choose from I
> will never go back to M$ agian for any reason.I just collected the warez
> and os's off the web for something to do and never sold them but some of
> you will be glad to know that you have made an honest man out of me as I
> wont ever mess with them agian and thats a good feeling.Mabey I havent
> found the right place on your website yet but I would like to see a
> little more "hold my hand" help for newbies like me on the x-windows gui
> as im haveing a very hard time finding out how to change my screen
> resolution (cont,alt +,- wont do it) and installing the ports.Thank
> goodness for alt mouse click to move the big window so I can see the
> buttons at the bottom.I have been wearing google out the last few days
> for imformation.If you guys made the probe just a little smarter and
> booted new users to a gui with cd burning,modem setup and e-mail
> wizards,etc.so it was an easy setup or dummies like me  I really
> believe you could sell it for a reasonable price and bring micro$oft to
> its knees in about 1 year because FreeBsd is a superior product.I have
> come a long way in a short time and will get mine but most americans
> arent gonna take the time to do all the required reading so they will
> stick with bill and have to live with all the bugs and security holes in
> the bloted os's they have to upgrade for high dollar each year.Seems
> like bill is putting out a new one every other day and you guys have
> stuck to improveing this for the last 17 years.Good Job.When I get mine
> down a little better I plan on spending a lot of time helping others and
> converting everyone I know to a real os.Thanks agian,
>
> Ken Burk
>
>
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