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Date:      Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:53:58 -0300 (BRT)
From:      "Mario Lobo" <mlobo@digiart.art.br>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: buffers not syncing correctly during shutdown
Message-ID:  <18175.200.249.56.17.1255528438.squirrel@squirrel.sv4.hmnoc.net>
In-Reply-To: <20091014151026.699a5765@ernst.jennejohn.org>
References:  <permail-200910141049541e86ffa80000566c-a_best01@message-id.uni-muenster.de> <20091014151026.699a5765@ernst.jennejohn.org>

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> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:49:54 +0200 (CEST)
> Alexander Best <alexbestms@math.uni-muenster.de> wrote:
>
>> hi there,
>>
>> to keep it short:
>>
>> 1. mount a removable device (e.g. an usb stick) (better use -r to
>> prevent data
>> loss)
>> 2. unplug the device (without unmounting it)
>> 3. `shutdown -r now`
>>
>> what happens is that the usual shutdown routine gets processed until all
>> buffers are synced, but then the system stalls.
>>
>> after resetting the system all devices (which were supposed to be
>> synced) are
>> marked dirty and are being fsck'ed.
>>
>> cheers.
>> alex
>>
>> oh...and i'm running FreeBSD otaku 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0
>> r197914:
>> Sat Oct 10 02:58:19 CEST 2009
>> root@otaku:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARUNDEL
>> i386
>>
>
> I'm inclined to say that umount'ing the file systems is failing because
> you pulled the USB stick out without doing umount.  Of course, that
> results in all file systems still being marked dirty.  Obviously, this
> pathological case isn't being handled.
>
> I personally don't see why it ever should be handled.  This is UNIX not
> Windows and users should be smart enough to know that they umount such
> devices before removing them otherwise nasty things can happen.
>
> ---
> Gary Jennejohn
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I must add that even windows has a "Safely Remove Hardware" before
unplugging the usb device.

Mario




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