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Date:      Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:45:15 +0200
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        Kirk McKusick <mckusick@mckusick.com>
Cc:        Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c
Message-ID:  <20000625114515.M36017@zoe.bastard.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <200006241900.MAA04365@beastie.mckusick.com>; from mckusick@mckusick.com on Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 12:00:26PM -0700
References:  <20000622115426.H29036@zoe.bastard.co.uk> <200006241900.MAA04365@beastie.mckusick.com>

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On Sat, Jun 24, 2000, Kirk McKusick wrote:

[snip]

> 	Kirk, do you still want to keep things that way ?
> 
> 	Adrian
> 
> Yes, I do want it kept as a yunefs option.

[snip]

> Your above proposal would work, though that is not how NetBSD
> implemented it. I feel that it is a lot of extra mechanism for very
> little gain. Administrators generally make a one-time decision to
> run soft updates on a filesystem. It is not the sort of thing that
> they want to change on a regular basis. It is possible to run tunefs
> on a filesystem that is mounted read-only, so it no more difficult
> to use tunefs than it is to make it a mount-time option (i.e., they
> still have to down-grade to read-only, set the option, then upgrade).
> Finally, I expect that soft updates will eventually just be defaulted
> to `on' when a filesystem is built, and in a few rare instances an
> administrator will want to turn it off. I do not want to have an
> option that needs to be added to nearly every fstab entry to get
> the default behavior. Plus it is just one more bit of trivia that
> new system administrators need to learn to make their systems run
> well. The more of those details that need not be learned because
> they just do the right thing, the better.

There we go. If someone has a better argument against this, feel free
to post it to the list. I'm calling this one dead.

Thanks, Kirk.


Adrian

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Adrian Chadd			Build a man a fire, and he's warm for the
<adrian@FreeBSD.org>		rest of the evening. Set a man on fire and
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