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Date:      Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:23:37 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        adrian@virginia.edu
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: mv /usr/src/games /dev/null - any objections?
Message-ID:  <199711051923.MAA15509@usr02.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.90.971105103205.27987F-100000@stretch.cs.Virginia.edu> from "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" at Nov 5, 97 10:37:48 am

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I didn't want to hit the lists again, since you all know how I feel
about this now (*STRONGLY*!).  But...

> 	Maybe they aren't any fun to the "old guard", but newbies often 
> find them entertaining.  This can be anyone form a child to a spouse.  My 
> wife liked playing hangman for a while.  What can I say? ;-)
> 
> 	The games is already a separate distribution bundle, so other 
> than fixing the legal issues as the arise, I'd like to see them stay in 
> the base source tree.  It's kind of a heritage/tradition thing to me.

I have to say that my introduction to UNIX was via the games.

It was the reason I learned how to login, how to cd, how to ls,
when to use "./" when a program wasn't in my path.  Later, it
was the reason I learned how to use "stty" to restor the terminal
after a game crashed, and even introduced me to csh's "!!" and "^"
syntax.

Now there is much less incentive to learn how computers work, mostly
because there is so much fluff between the user and the OS environment
that you can't get an intuitive feel for the interactions any more.

However, there is a small percentage of people (myself included) who
just don't find "Mortal Combat" or "Myst" or "Quake" to be impressive;
among these are going to be the next generation of technically
competent people (IMO).  You don't learn how a computer works playing
"Myst", or multistate logic (like "Adventure" teaches) playing "Mario".

If you kill the games, you damage "recruitment".

Anyway, that's my opinion.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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