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Date:      Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:19:27 -0400
From:      kwc@world.std.com (Kenneth W Cochran)
To:        freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Managed vs unmanaged NICs
Message-ID:  <199908101319.AA10469@world.std.com>

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>From root@implode.root.com  Tue Aug 10 02:30:24 1999
>To: Jay Kuri <jay@oneway.com>
>Cc: Kenneth W Cochran <kwc@world.std.com>, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: Managed vs unmanaged NICs
>In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:25:42 EDT."
>             <Pine.BSF.4.05.9908092222510.25857-100000@daedal.oneway.com>
>From: David Greenman <dg@root.com>
>Reply-To: dg@root.com
>Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 23:25:56 -0700
>
>>> I've heard that managed cards are wastes of money under
>>> Unix-type OSes, but I don't remember why...  Could someone fill
>>> me in?  :)
>>> For examples, the Intel 100+ and the 3Com 905B are both
>>> available as either "managed" or "unmanaged" cards.
>>
>>   Well, I can't say much about managed vs. unmanaged in general, I can
>>say that there are some problems I can only describe as 'wierd' with the
>>intel managed cards.  They only show up rarely, but on some hardware, the
>>cards just lock up and don't send data anymore.  Intel is aware of the
>>problem and trying to figure it out... Most hardware works fine... but we
>>have computers at my work that will work with the older unmanaged cards
>>that won't work with the new ones. *shrug* beats me.
>
>   This is almost certainly the bug reported in a recent PR. Intel has changed
>the SEEPROM layout, causing the fxp driver to get the MAC address wrong - it's
>always the same 6 bytes, so if you have more than one of these on your network,
>look out!
>   I've been in contact with Intel and have asked for an update on the SEEPROM
>layout changes. I'm still waiting for a response.
>
>-DG
>
>David Greenman
>Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org

I s'pose I can assume that there are "problems" with the managed
cards.  :-)

But...

A somewhat more "general" Q:

Why might/would I want a managed NIC anyway?

Also, Intel (for example -- I'm sure the other NIC
manufacturers, too) has lines of "desktop" & "server" NICs, both
managed & unmanaged, except the server NICs are all "managed."

This might make a nice FAQ:

How do I select a NIC for FreeBSD?  Ie.  What features are
useful (& not-so-useful)?

-kc


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