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Date:      Sun, 08 Mar 1998 23:23:49 -0800
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin)
Cc:        john.saunders@scitec.com.au (John Saunders), mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: *HEADS UP* Important change warning. (long version) 
Message-ID:  <199803090723.XAA13717@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Mar 1998 01:10:07 CST." <199803090710.BAA04713@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> 

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> > 
> > Don't know why some people get so emotional about the name of a device.
> > If FreeBSD is to move forward we all must accept that change is
> > inevitable. Mike also did a good job of warning us before hand.
> 
> 3 hours advance notice ? or I just missed something ? ;)

The point behind the announcement was that, if you're serious, you read 
-stable *before* you rebuild.  The updates and the messages were timed 
to avoid any gaps, but I don't have the luxury of a few months to let 
one change propagate before building on it.  8(

> Sitting in front of all your computers you might be forgetting that
> There are plenty (or at least - quite a few) of people who are doing 
> such upgrades remotely...

If you are doing remote upgrades without a fallback plan, and without 
local testing, then you are already accepting a plethora of risks.  We 
can't stop you from shooting you feet off, much as we'd like to.

> I am a bit confused: what would be the behavior of an updated system 
> with the disk which was divided as follows:
> 
> Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/wd0a       31775    24103     5130    82%    /
> /dev/wd0s1g   1004015   558208   365486    60%    /home
> /dev/wd0s2e     63567       19    58463     0%    /tmp
> /dev/wd0s1e    500463   290300   170126    63%    /usr
> /dev/wd0s2f   2980238   645811  2096008    24%    /usr2
> /dev/wd0s2g   2878330  2485211   162853    94%    /usr3
> /dev/wd0s1f     98479     2869    87732     3%    /var
> /dev/wd0s1h     98802    23382    67516    26%    /var/log

This will result in a diagnostic from mount at boot time, telling you 
that you should be mounting /dev/wd0s1a on /.  If you have updated 
mount as per messages to this list, you'll still work just fine.

> Also,
> If a have an "inherited" computer -
> how can I tell whether it has an old or a new type of slices without going 
> into /stand/sysinstall .... ?

Install the new kernel and new mount.  It will tell you if things need 
to be changed.

-- 
\\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
\\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
\\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com



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