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Date:      Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:41:12 +0200
From:      Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: VLANs, routing, multicast and HP switches, oh my...
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On 06/12/10 23:22, Kurt Buff wrote:

> Again - they'll be putting up to 200 busy machines on each subnet. It
> seems reasonable to limit the broadcast domains with VLANs.

I know that everyone begins to talk about "limiting the broadcast
domains" when talking about VLANs sooner or later but I have never
managed to learn exactly why this would be the biggest benefit of using
VLANs.

Except if you are explicitly researching broadcast communication, the
only times a modern Ethernet will see broadcast packets is:

1) ARP packets when the machines are brought up or contacted the first time
2) router announcements, RIP & similar
3) Windows NetBIOS / Windows Networking workgroup name resolving
(analogous to ARP).

Is there really so much broadcast traffic of these categories in a
network of 200 machines? And except if you are going to divide VLANs so
that each has a dedicated set of switches and cabling, with each VLAN
consisting of a dozen machines or so, many of these broadcast packets
will travel through the same cables and the same switch so you won't
magically get better performance out of it. You won't get away from
routing announcements and routing IP between VLANs will also result in
ARP requests on the destination side.





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