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Date:      Thu, 9 Jul 2015 10:21:16 +0100
From:      David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>
To:        NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com>, Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org>, Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@dyslexicfish.net>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: gettimeofday((void *)-1, NULL) implicates core dump on recent FreeBSD 11-CURRENT
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On 9 Jul 2015, at 10:17, NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> I agree that this is less applicable for FreeBSD than NetBSD. Please
> keep in mind that contrib/netbsd-tests came from NetBSD, not FreeBSD.
> Peter Holm and I tried our best to vet out the issues with the test
> suite before integrating it in, but there might be issues due to
> implementation discrepancies between FreeBSD and NetBSD.

The high-level question is whether these are conformance tests (in which =
case they should be checking for specified behaviour) or regression =
tests (in which case they should be checking for known implementation =
details, but should explicitly document what those are).

When the gettimeofday implementation changed, it would have been nice to =
get two results:

- No conformance tests failed, change is still a valid implementation of =
POSIX gettimeofday()

- One regression test failed.  This test is assuming that gettimeofday() =
is a system call and so should be marked as an expected failure.

Unfortunately, the test suite currently conflates the two.

David




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