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Date:      Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:19:15 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Mike Pritchard <mpp@FreeBSD.org>
To:        chris@calldei.com
Cc:        grios@ddsecurity.com.br (Gustavo V G C Rios), freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: CS Project
Message-ID:  <199909091119.GAA04543@mpp.pro-ns.net>
In-Reply-To: <19990908203812.A98739@holly.calldei.com> from Chris Costello at "Sep 8, 1999 08:38:12 pm"

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> On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Gustavo V G C Rios wrote:
> > Dear gentleman,
> 
> > One clear example:
> > No user(but only that ones previous allowed to) should be able to see
> > other users process. This facility have to be done at kernel level,
> > (that's what i think).
> 
>    Define "see".  Access the memory?  See that it is running?
> View the argv list?  I don't see how this would affect privacy.

I used to work somewhere where we didn't wany any of the users
to know anything about any other groups of users processes.
We did this by restricting ps to only show other procs that
had the same primary group as the person executing ps.
Root and group wheel (or some equivalent) could always see
all running procs.  You could always go hunting through the
file systems, but their own directory permissions were their problem,
not ours.

This was a computing center site with several Crays, where customer names 
were kept private, and we had companies that were in competition
with each other using our machines.  The competition didn't want each
other even knowing what applications they were running, because that 
might give them some insight into what they were doing (keyword 
here: paranoid).  We might have also hacked w/who/finger/last to never 
print the host names/addresses so no one could nslookup the addresses 
and really figure out where the customers were logging in from.  This was 
to stop them from finding out the competition was also one of our customers.

So I can see situations where this might be useful, I'm not
sure that these types of customers are really going to ever
be sharing a FreeBSD machine, but you never know.

-Mike
-- 
Mike Pritchard
mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net


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