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Date:      Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:40:51 -0600 (CST)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
To:        bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans)
Cc:        bde@zeta.org.au, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, root@deadline.snafu.de
Subject:   Re: tty-level buffer overflows - what to do?
Message-ID:  <199604051840.MAA05100@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
In-Reply-To: <199604051826.EAA18166@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Apr 6, 96 04:26:33 am

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> >> >What kind of drives?  IDE drives bite, particularly if they are being used
> >> >at the same time as the serial port... etc, etc.
> >> 
> >> IDE drives have no affect on the operation of the serial unless they
> >> are so slow that the system spends too much of its time in the kernel.
> >> Bus-hogging SCSI controllers bite.
> 
> >It has been my observation that IDE drives DO tend to affect the operation
> >of serial I/O, at least during heavy I/O periods.  Small-memory systems tend
> >to spend much more time doing "heavy I/O" (swapping), in my experience, this
> >is just one reason I put 8MB in even my smallest machines these days.
> 
> It's an indirect effect.  Small-memory systems are more likely to have
> slow IDE drives that make the swapping slower.  You probably can't
> afford to swap the applications doing serial i/o at all if you don't use
> flow control - the kernel buffers are only large enough for 100 msec of
> input at 115200 bps.

Well, even with drives like the WDC Caviar's (the most common IDE drive
around here)...  and with flow control...  you can see some lossage.

_My_ recommendation is to build the systems so you don't use the disk 
much.  And it works for me.  :-)  YMMV

... Joe

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