Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:57:18 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Current <current@FreeBSD.org>, David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>, toolchain@FreeBSD.org, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com>, Boris Samorodov <bsam@passap.ru> Subject: Re: GCC withdraw Message-ID: <9B13FF68-35F4-4A7C-8AD3-F72BA28718E8@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <1377440469.1111.124.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> References: <20130822200902.GG94127@funkthat.com> <105E26EE-8471-49D3-AB57-FBE2779CF8D0@FreeBSD.org> <5217413A.9080105@passap.ru> <20130823111647.GT2951@home.opsec.eu> <521745F2.8050607@passap.ru> <CAOFF%2BZ3vbOgMO7T-BKZnhKte6=rFoGcdYcft5kpAgNH2my1JKg@mail.gmail.com> <20130824115158.GA88999@zxy.spb.ru> <EC9008A3-1737-470F-9067-C38FF13CFA20@FreeBSD.org> <20130824154217.GE3796@zxy.spb.ru> <20130824224204.GH3796@zxy.spb.ru> <D6A8F21E-C9AD-48C1-892E-80048343DCBA@freebsd.org> <1377440469.1111.124.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
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On Aug 25, 2013, at 8:21 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 23:44 +0100, David Chisnall wrote: >> On 24 Aug 2013, at 23:42, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote: >>=20 >>> And i found PR about clang and mplayer: ports/176272 >>> This PR contains log with build error log. >>=20 >> Please file clang bugs at http://llvm.org/bugs/ >>=20 >> David > And THIS is a major reason why FreeBSD needs a compiler in base = instead > of all tools being ports. The last thing we need is to start = responding > to every problem with "this is not my problem, go file a report > upstream." If we're already doing it for the compiler that's supposed > to be the new supported tool, how much worse will peoples' experience = be > when we assert no ownership or responsibility for a toolchain at all? Especially when the external toolchain support is far from well = integrated, is lacking key features and needs much documentation on what = is there. One of the huge draws to FreeBSD is that you don't have to play = whack-a-mole with gcc/binutils/libc/etc. I'd sure hate to lose that. Warner
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