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Date:      Mon, 04 May 1998 08:06:30 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
Cc:        Matthew Hunt <mph@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/www/ijb - Imported sources 
Message-ID:  <13402.894261990@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 May 1998 00:33:56 %2B0200." <19980504003356.43232@follo.net> 

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>> First:
>> ------
>> If I used Lynx I wouldn't see the ads.  From this we can deduce that
>> people pay for having their ads placed, but not for having them read.
>
>This is quite incorrect.  There are three advertising models in broad
>use on the web today - pay per impression (usually counted in
>thosands as 'CPM'), pay per click-through, and pay per action.

But you must admit that all this is purely unintersting if I run
Lynx, right ?

>> (This is exactly the same as the ads in any magazine, the magzine 
>> publishes the ads, but they do not guarantee that I will not simply
>> skip those pages when I read the magazine.)
>
>They give a statistical average for how many 'impressions' the ad will
>generate - how many people that will see it.  In some cases, they're
>in on a pay-per-action deal, but that is more common on television
>(e.g, the CNN hotels adverts and almost certainly the MTV collections
>CD adverts).

This is not television, but a user-controlled medium.

>> Third:
>> ------
>> FreeBSD is in the business of providing tools for people, we're not
>> in the business of setting their policies.
>
>I disagree.  We're clearly in the business of setting policies - ie,
>which tools we include in the base system is part of setting policy
>for the sites that install it, and not having rootkits in the ports
>collection is setting policy.

Well Eivind, you're not setting policy, -core is, and last time we
discussed this, -core agreed on the above.

--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
"ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal



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