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Date:      Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:24 -0200
From:      Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
Message-ID:  <200910271715.24977.gnemmi@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <b79ecaef0910270216q14421922w4acf62103322c16a@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:16:14 am Chris Rees wrote:
> 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner <luvbeastie@larseighner.com>:
> > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> >> On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote:
> >>> It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
> >>>
> >>> How many people actually use it? Very few.
> >>> Why isn't it moved to ports?
> >>
> >> What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have?
> >
> > The configuration is opaque, to put it kindly.
>
> Are you talking about sendmail.m4 or sendmail.cf? Because we stopped
> editing sendmail.cf by hand years ago..... I really don't think
> configuring it properly is difficult.

Im holding "Sendmail, 3rd edition" by O'reilly in my hands right now .. 
the Bat book .. 

I covers up to Sendmail 8.12 (massive changes took place between 8.9 and 
8.12), and I'm still looking at a massive 1207 pages book that deals 
with a single piece of software ...

In my other hand, I'm holding "Postfix, The definitive guide" by 
O'Reilly too ... 206 pages to get a fully functional MTA working.

The Senmail book is even bigger than the Lucas book on FreeBSD ... the 
whole Operative System

> As you kindly cut out of Jonathan's post when you replied to it,
>
> "Almost everyone I've ever spoken to about why they dislike sendmail
> trots out a bunch of cliches based on sendmail 8.8. People, we're up
> to sendmail 8.14 now. Get over it!"

No .. it didn't get any easier.

Best Regards
Gonzalo Nemmi



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