Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:16:32 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> To: jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) Cc: terry@lambert.org, phk@critter.dk.tfs.com, pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co, jb@cimlogic.com.au, srn@flibble.psrg.cs.usyd.edu.au, freebsd-platforms@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Some one working on a SPARC version? Message-ID: <199703170016.RAA06856@phaeton.artisoft.com> In-Reply-To: <199703162221.JAA02054@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> from "John Birrell" at Mar 17, 97 09:21:11 am
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> > > Well, some of us at least... :-) > > > > He had a smiley with a wink there, later. > > > > I was questioning the general mentality behind the Aristotilian mean > > that says "there must be a 'them' for there to be an 'us'". > > I get awfully confused about who is/are "them" and who is/are "us". 8-) us/them: unified VM/buffer cache coherent user space advanced component installation SMP wants kindom control over areas claimed by them/us them/us: multiple platforms working stacking FS (easier to do in the old VM) clean multiplatform source/target build environment VM86 wants kindom control over areas claimed by us/them > The time that would be spent porting NetBSD/Sparc or NetBSD/Alpha > to FreeBSD would be better spent making *BSD userland code build > and run on NetBSD/* _and_ FreeBSD/i386. And/or porting the unified VM code to NetBSD. > Let FreeBSD kernel hackers hack FreeBSD/i386 and let FreeBSD userland > hackers hack *BSD. You mean "let *BSD userland hackers hack *BSD". This solves "coherent user space" everywhere, but fails on "advanced component installation" everywhere, since it requires active maintenance on a per platform basis. > Remove the "wall" and agree that there are lots of things that > will continue to differ between FreeBSD and NetBSD, but accept the > fact that there are a *lot* of things that can remain the same -- > build on that. The wall is there for a reason... it seperates the kingdoms and keeps the nominal kings mollified about their toes: a convenient fiction, assuming we care about the kings toes... I don't. Remember the "Falkland Islands" (Merge) "discussions"? Let us eat cake, I suppose... Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.
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