Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:51:54 +0100 From: "A.J. 'Fonz' van Werven" <freebsd@skysmurf.nl> To: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org> Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org" <ports@freebsd.org>, marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing Message-ID: <20131219205154.GA33044@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> In-Reply-To: <52B348F3.8020407@FreeBSD.org> References: <52B0D149.5020308@marino.st> <52B343FE.4070808@FreeBSD.org> <52B3474A.7090803@marino.st> <52B348F3.8020407@FreeBSD.org>
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--MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan Drewery wrote: >> If FreeBSD isn't going to enforce their own procedures and use of >> infrastructure, I will limit my exposure to the continuing anarchy and >> let "customer service" to those that agree that ports@ is a >> free-for-all. > [snip] > ports@ is a community that more people read than freebsd-ports-bugs and > are more likely to get help and discuss how they fixed the issue. We are > a mailing-list driven organization after all. I hope you folks don't mind if I weigh in here. Besides the various mailing lists we also still have the forums. Recently some forum users have started to express their frustration at the lack of coordination between the lists and the forums. Suggestions have been raised that perhaps the forums should start posting mailing list digests and/or vice versa in order to increase integration between the two media. The forums have a special section for port issues and although many people try to help each other it happens a bit too often (IMO) that people post a problem and all we can do is refer them to this list because too few port committers/maintainers/experts use the forums. In short: if the way this list is being used (at least by some, vis-a-vis the "dump an error log without as much as a hello"), I wouldn't mind if people were more encouraged to try the forums, provided that enough people with expertise are willing to start participating there. A quick search reveals that the vast majority of (port or src) committers have forum accounts but rarely, if ever, use them. Just my two (euro)cents, though. Personally I'm not too bothered by the noise on any FreeBSD mailing list I am subscribed to; I have a 'D' button (combined with Ctrl for good measure when needed) and a ~/.procmailrc for that. AvW --=20 I'm not completely useless, I can be used as a bad example. --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSs1xqAAoJEAfP7gJTaCe8/KcQAJ8JmoKNiTYc9xgv7Hh+48fg uc+Y8has1Ha468S96hsl8yquJoPIDwgbassNzzKc+HYMiwisNtliPxKTc8TiONHU V41B4wlwdGuubnz43vcpwJTODS3xJEkgDBjiTBPCr7+AeN+xuE6SwIhxpbaTxw5m kwAZjiHBwC9csgHDjiZiR1CzhCMD11uk155WQNp7fksDwBnNDyHZx8bAwIb3qZ1g cSn+KtC7m71RMqy5aekXJqyMGZzqE6RdcSGKJDu5QN+caZngBCsAbHNkz1y81Q1S YNuOWtIbUeg2j2J9xNa5juWMQ/Q9KF5EfU4NsC8ExGujSlxvas4dNSkt1BmwPHiw VQO8siRdCqPF01WIWmMihV2rWSiyA/cJopBiV7nCBQu95oLgw1yuu3946HJFVOx7 ulSVFGQpIfSlxCY9VZodbVk9PAX7c4+cr8r1zm/K48NsJ7EH4RUAylewQ8nYWKED FTDv0+/R8ABK+ddWmwbeFYt7xChjTS73Ik2f1QOH6aomUSxeeI5tpZ80JaLsXj8N 1detW5Z6GHiSpa1TCCNiKC4tb1PtA75zaEb5aXcavGSI/8B+e66hJVSLH2ynhZfI x55z96vg7NEY6qFqhWKQ7eMSYuy92jhYfJWQ8YLoN/5zS5vcooIX6huHkAFrVU/c QxW3CKFLxKhaZbUGg4/j =1JGQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8--
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