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Date:      Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:02:54 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        "Danny J. Zerkel" <dzerkel@columbus.rr.com>
Cc:        Aleksander Rozman - Andy <andy@kksonline.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Clearcase and FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <3C74716E.E36286FF@mindspring.com>
References:  <20020217161249.D0B2B3235@ns1.rwwa.com> <5.0.2.1.0.20020220214519.02b98280@213.161.0.10> <200202210204.g1L245H20108@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>

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"Danny J. Zerkel" wrote:
> Maybe cvs is an academic toy.  Most real development requires a real
> configuration management system.  Why do you think there is work being done
> on FreeBSD in Perforce?

Frankly, it's because CVS only permits a single line of
concurrent developement, and it's a limiting tool; but
CVSup is CVS-centric and fails with P4, and P4 costs money
as a barrier to adoption for FreeBSD, if the project were
to cut over to it, so there's understandable backpressure
against using it for the main repository.


> The sooner FreeBSD and Linux can escape the clutches
> of cvs, the better.

Linux doesn't use CVS.  It doesn't use source management
software at all, right now; Linus has only recently got
around to experimenting with Bitkeeper.

No matter how you slice it, your tools constrain your work;
FreeBSD has a two tier core/committer split, and a barrier
to entry for casual patch submission because of CVS' single
line of developement, and GNATS/send-pr, respectively.

-- Terry

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