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Date:      Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:23:30 +0200
From:      Edward Tomasz Napierala <trasz@freebsd.org>
To:        Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r306012 - head/etc/autofs
Message-ID:  <20160920072330.GA13933@brick>
In-Reply-To: <20160920164312.W1333@besplex.bde.org>
References:  <201609200454.u8K4s0RZ025158@repo.freebsd.org> <20160920164312.W1333@besplex.bde.org>

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On 0920T1653, Bruce Evans wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Edward Tomasz Napierala wrote:
> 
> > Log:
> >  Fix -media to not mount ufs with "async"; it doesn't make sense when
> >  there is softupdates.
> 
> It does make sense when there isn't soft updates.  With soft updates, it
> is silently ignored.

True.  It might be possible to make special_media to check whether softdep
is enabled using tunefs(8).

> However, I don't like changing the default.  async gives less robustness
> and noatime breaks POSIX conformance.

I liked the previous defaults too, until I've started to use this more
often.  For things like SD cards, "sync" is just annoyingly slow.

> I use async a lot, but rarely for removable backup media except for the
> first use, and noatime almost always, and type a lot of mount commands,
> mostly using shell history to retrieve nearly-correct options and then
> edit just to toggle ro/rw and async/noasync flags.

Btw, /etc/autofs is in /etc for a reason - so that the system administrators
can tweak it.




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