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Date:      Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:11:07 -0400
From:      Brandon Fosdick <bfoz@glue.umd.edu>
To:        Robert Withrow <bwithrow@nortelnetworks.com>
Cc:        Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>, ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Some new ports broken on 4.0REL
Message-ID:  <38F6621B.FE4A6222@glue.umd.edu>
References:  <200004132322.TAA36744@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com>

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Robert Withrow wrote:
> 
> nbm@mithrandr.moria.org said:
> :- He means: "Did you cvsup ports-base?"
> 
> Answer: no.
> 
> Question:  Where does it say that cvsup is the only "authorized" way to
> use the ports collection.
> Answer: No where.
> 
> Please, all of you, go and read *your* web page.  I specifically direct your
> attention to this passage:
>
>
>  "These are FreeBSD packages; please use pkg_add to install them. 
>  That should enable you to use all the ports listed here."
<snip>

First of all, it's not _my_ webpage.

Second, not only does the webpage avoid suggesting that cvsup is the
only authorized solution, but none of the replies to your query
suggested that either. The team puts a lot of effort into making the
necessary bits readily available through a variety of channels.

Third, both the webpage and the cvsup suggestion are correct. You could
also check any of the numerous ftp mirrors for the necessary files,
which is exactly why I didn't specify that you had to cvsup.

Fourth, I'm aware of the fact that there isn't an upgrade package for
4.0 yet, that's why I asked if you had already updated those files (in
case you already knew and had just forgotten). I needed more
information, that's why I asked. If you had simply answered my question
without lambasting the entire FreeBSD team, we'd have gotten to a
workable solution much faster. and with a lot less flame.

Fifth, in the open source world suggesting an improvement is the same as
volunteering to implement it. Be careful what you wish for.

Finally, everybody here is a volunteer. As such we have little reason to
put up with people that throw a tantrum. You'll get the help you need
around here much faster if you play nicely.


-Brandon


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