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Date:      Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:35:07 -0500 (EST)
From:      Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org>
To:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith)
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: BoS: Exploit for sendmail smtpd bug (ver. 8.7-8.8.2).
Message-ID:  <199611180335.WAA10831@homeport.org>
In-Reply-To: <199611180335.OAA17231@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Nov 18, 96 02:05:04 pm"

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smap/smapd (from the TIS firewall toolkit) can handle mail delivery
services & binding to port 25.  They're designed for security.

Adam

Michael Smith wrote:
| Warner Losh stands accused of saying:

| > I don't buy this.  You need to be able to create a mailbox of an
| > arbitrary user, and then write to that mailbox with that user's uid,
| > or to a shell of that user's uid.  To do otherwise would introduce
| > other security problems, some of which have been beat to death in the
| > freebsd lists.
| > What am I missing?

| mail.local.
| 
| Mark's sense of warmth is perhaps slightly over-smug, but his point is
| valid.  In fact, if it were possible to be non-root and bind to port 25,
| then sendmail could be run non-root in daemon mode and not be called from
| cron (which Mark omitted to mention).


-- 
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
					               -Hume





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