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Date:      Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:02:41 +0200
From:      Mel Flynn <mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mister.olli@googlemail.com
Cc:        John Almberg <jalmberg@identry.com>
Subject:   Re: Sorting out owner and group permissions...
Message-ID:  <200904211702.41953.mel.flynn%2Bfbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
In-Reply-To: <1240319627.11199.25.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net>
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On Tuesday 21 April 2009 15:13:47 Mister Olli wrote:

> no does not work, since using SSH / SFTP does not involve starting a
> shell. so umask settings don't work.

Then you're using the wrong system for the task. The OS can't make assumptions 
about "what the ownership/modes of a file should really be, if an application 
is telling it they should be different".
This is why more mature FTP daemons allow modes/ownerships to be set on 
upload.

The OS already:
- gives a new file group of the containing directory so it is easy to create 
"shared files" in a "shared directory"
- has a default umask that is world readable
- allows changing a users umask

The application (sftp) overrides all this and now you're expecting the OS to 
override that again. Don't think so ;)
-- 
Mel



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