Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 05:17:31 -0400 From: Jim Brown <jpb@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Improved searching for FreeBSD.org web site Message-ID: <20020824051731.A57122@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> In-Reply-To: <3D663073.40604@centtech.com>; from anderson@centtech.com on Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 07:54:11AM -0500 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020822220010.00ab2540@pop.atomz.com> <20020823073410.B39333@blackhelicopters.org> <3D663073.40604@centtech.com>
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I see value in having both search engines available. CPAN does this, and I use all of them when I am looking for something truly obscure. I extend my sincere thanks to both support offers. FreeBSD can now go from horrible searching to excellent in one^h^h^h two steps. jpb === * Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com> [2002-08-23 08:54]: > Actually, I guess I'm a little bitter by this. I spent a lot of time in the > recent past working on a search engine replacement for FreeBSD.org, and even > asked for comments and suggestions on this list (http://www.sprawler.com for > beta testing). I also repeatedly asked how I can get it in a "test mode" kind > of set up to see how well people enjoy it, with NO RESPONSES. > > Now, some corporate web searching company decides to throw this in "as a nice > gesture", and everyone wants to flock toward it. The results looked less > relevant to me on the few searches I tried, and I don't like the interface as > much (of course, I'm biased). > > Heck, I'm offering to babysit the thing and keep it up to date (more than can be > said about the currently pathetic search engine on the site), and this company > is looking for a free advertising angle. > > Eric > > > Michael Lucas wrote: > > > [[cc trimmed for some hint of "internal" doc discussion]] > > > > <mwlucas puts on Donations Liason Office hat> > > > > Guys, > > > > What is the current consensus on our existing Web searching functions? > > > > I would like to at least give these folks some sort of answer, to > > encourage future contributions from corporations. > > > > If the consensus is that our web site is adequately indexed, we should > > tell them so. If the consensus is that our searching blows, we might > > want to take them up on it. > > > > My gut reaction is that we should offer this sort of service as an > > add-on to our existing search engine, and see how well it's accepted > > or appreciated by the user base. > > > > Comments? Criticisms? Other issues? > > > > To me, the important thing is that we give them an answer, one way or > > another, preferably from a senior doc person. > > > > ==ml > > > > </DLO hat> > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 10:19:22PM -0700, Mike Thompson wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>I don't know you have heard of us, but Atomz is one of the leading > >>providers of hosted web-native search and content management applications > >>delivered over the Internet. Since our founding in 1998, our services have > >>been powered by FreeBSD and we now have over 55,000 web sites using Atomz > >>hosted services. Companies that use Atomz hosted services include > >>Macromedia, Palm, Handspring, Maxtor, CBS News, Sony Playstation, Princess > >>Cruises, Kohler, U.S. Customs Department, Johnson & Johnson Lifescan, Red > >>Herring Magazine, and the list goes on and on. > >> > >>I wanted to offer the use of the Atomz search service for the FreeBSD.org > >>web site for free. I believe that this could improve the overall quality > >>of the FreeBSD.org web site and make it easier for people to find > >>information out about our favorite operating system -- FreeBSD. I put > >>together a quick example of Atomz Search for the FreeBSD.org web site at > >>the following URL: > >> > >>http://mike.demo.atomz.com/freebsd/ > >> > >>This example is searching about 2600 documents on the FreeBSD.org web > >>site. With a little more work we could search the entire email archives in > >>the same manner and the foreign language sections of the site. > >> > >>Because of the value at Atomz we have found in FreeBSD, I would make our > >>services available to the FreeBSD.org web site for free. We normally sell > >>our search service for $15,000 to $100,000 depending on the customer > >>requirements so I hope that you can see that this is a very powerful > >>service. I would also offer technical assistance from our company to > >>assist with making sure FreeBSD.org is getting a top quality implementation > >>of our web service. I would also be willing to offer our content > >>management system, Atomz Publish, as well if you think that would be useful > >>to the FreeBSD organization. > >> > >>In any case, I hope that this offer seems attractive. If you have > >>questions or would like to discuss this further, please contact me at > >>mike@atomz.com or by phone at 650-244-5602. > >> > >>Thank you for helping to support the creation of a wonderful operating system. > >> > >>Mike Thompson > >>CTO/Co-Founder Atomz > >>mike@atomz.com > >> > >> > >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology > The moon may be smaller than Earth, but it's further away. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message
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