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Date:      Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:59:03 -0500
From:      Lee Cremeans <lcremeans@erols.com>
To:        Jason Garman <jgarman@wedgie.org>
Cc:        hometeam <hometeam@techpower.net>, Gawel <gawel@sim.com.pl>, Eric Jacoboni <jaco@titine.fr.eu.org>, Grigoriy Strokin <grg@philol.msu.ru>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: New kernel with its ATA drivers damages the filesystem
Message-ID:  <20000329165903.B7857@lcremeans.erols.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000329161649.A15367@got.wedgie.org>; from jgarman@wedgie.org on Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 04:16:49PM -0500
References:  <38E1D32B.F946EEB8@sim.com.pl> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003290849210.3533-100000@techpower.net> <20000329161649.A15367@got.wedgie.org>

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On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 04:16:49PM -0500, Jason Garman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 08:53:38AM -0500, hometeam wrote:
> > 
> > I agree this really should be fix ...I notcied this straight away and sent
> > mail to the group...Now it is damaging file Systems after the fact and
> > wiping out file systems... I mean change the
> > hardware ??? Why not fix the driver ?
> > 
> Because in my experience at least it is a hardware problem, not unlike the
> old cmd640 and rz1000 bugs.  Granted there should be an easy way to
> disable dma in the kernel config (so that you can disable it early on,
> before bootup and also during installation)

Some things I've noticed about all this:

1) My machine is running FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE (soon to be 4.0-STABLE) on a
Soyo SY-5EHM board (using an ETEQ chipset, really a relabelled VIA MVP3)
board, and in the time I've had it (over a year now), I've not seen any
serious problems or filesystem corruption in DMA mode, and I've done
stressful things like make buildworld on it many times without trouble. Just
FYI, I have a Seagate Medalist Pro 9.1GB, a Toshiba 32x CDROM and an LS-120
drive hooked up (HD's on the primary channel, CD-ROM and floppy on the
second).

2) Here's the weird bit...I cut an ISO of 4.0-RELEASE...uh, last Friday I
think? and I decided to play with it on an Intel SE440BX2 board. (Celeron
300A processor, I think). I was noticing all sorts of weird
filesystem-corruption problems while it was installing ("panic: dup alloc"
was one of them), and it also had trouble seeing the hard drive I had hooked
up (an old (1997) JTS Champion 3.2GB). Changing out the memory, of all
things, seemed to make it work. THis drive also worked without a problem
once I connected it to my machine (to check out 4.0 without having to pull
the trigger on my main disk).

PS: IDE unfortunately still sucks when you have two devices on the same
channel (the LS-120 lags the CD-ROM horribly when I try to use both at
once), but that's not a FreeBSD problem, that's a "I need a SCSI LS-120"
problem (they're hard to find, but they're out there). :)

-lee

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