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Date:      Sat, 23 Aug 1997 12:52:23 -0400
From:      "Kevin P. Neal" <kpneal@pobox.com>
To:        Alex <garbanzo@hooked.net>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Get more visitors!
Message-ID:  <1.5.4.32.19970823165223.008c4128@mail.mindspring.com>

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At 10:35 AM 8/22/97 -0700, Alex wrote:
>
>
>On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Jim Bryant wrote:
>
>> In reply:
>> > >I'm getting tired of spam...
>> > As am I.
>> > 
>> actually congress compounded the problem by not legislating against
>> junk email when the bill was before them this year, but then what do
>> you expect out of conservatives...
>
>So has hub.freebsd.org which has appeared in a few spams that I've gotten
>this month :/.
> 
>> the only way to remove junk email from the net, until legislation
>> making such illegal is in place, it to simply fight fire with fire,
>> even if it logjams the entire freaking internet.
>> 
>> don't write to me, write to your freaking congressman.
>
>Yeah, like they're gonna get off their collective asses and do something.

This conversation probably doesn't belong on the FreeBSD lists.

But anyway, I personally think that giving the Congresscritters even a
pinkie-hold on lawmaking for the Internet is a bad idea. We don't want
ignorant Congress making laws about the Internet, which means we don't
want them to start. 

The laws concerning junk faxes don't really work so what makes you think that
similar laws applied to junk email will work? The only solution through
the government is to *sue*, which is happening with some success. 

A solution that doesn't require the government would be to use routers
or something to block out traffic from "offending" domains or networks. Or
perhaps don't accept email or news from offending domains or networks. It
happened with Uunet, it can happen with any other ISP. 

We risk fragmenting the Internet, but if we got Sprint, MCI, AT&T, etc in on
it then we could have some success. 

That's all I'm going to say about this on this list. I suggest we take this
to one of the net.abuse newsgroups. Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if this
was in a FAQ on one of those newsgroups. 
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